How's the RRG in late October? Too cold? Too rainy? Just right?

My partners and I are trying to decide between the Red and Red Rock (Las Vegas). Any advice would be welcome.

JL

Nothing is ever for sure in the Red. End of October is usually best weather of the year. But it may rain. If it does, go to one of the many walls with rain shelter. But, it could be 75, could be 40. It will probably be in the 50s or 60s.

^ What he said, but when October is good in the Red, it's truly phenomenal!

Thanks, guys. That's what I was hoping to hear!

JL

The website says you are the administrator for the RRG. Not trying to be mean here, but perhaps you're not qualified for that job?

I'm gettin some popcorn for this one. Did you get Gannett?

The only troll I've seen in this thread is this one:

"How's the RRG in late October?"

well, I've found that moccasyns are really nice for the trad cracks where you have to make your own chock anchors, but for "sport" edges and clipping bolts, I like my assanazi velcroes!

If you try to buy breakfast around there, they smother it in "Red Eye Gravy" which I am told is made from coffee grounds. It's more like Brown Eye Gravy. I'd go to Vegas.

John, have you done jungle beat 5.10 on military wall? Classic trad 2 pitch. about 200 ft.

John your doing a great job! Hang in there!

OK, now who's being a jerk? IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION! It seems to me that if you don't know if the weather is good at the Red in late October, then you don't climb there very much. If you're going to take the responsibility of being administrator (and the benefits that go with it), then you are susceptible to some oversight.

How much have you climbed at the Red? What are your qualifications to be the admin?

Mike,

I think you're a bit out of line. You are correct that there are a number of Admins that are not really qualified to be admins, whatever that means, but its clear that any Admin is better than no Admin. MP.com is doing the best it can to run a website. Most of the job of being an Admin comes down to computer savy, time, effort & attention to detail; not knowledge of the climbing area. Ideally every Admin would have climbed every route at every crag they are responsible for, but that is obviously never going to happen.

I think everyone in this conversation should take a deep breath & start over. I'm pretty sure Mike meant to say something like this:

"Saxfiend, October is a great time to visit. I'm glad to see that you're taking the time to check out this sweet crag since you are currently stuck with the overwhelmingly unrewarding responsibility of adminstrating it. If you ever need a hand with any of the specifics, I would be glad to help you out."

And in Mike's defense, let me say that IMO, MP.com isn't very proactive in recruiting Admins. There certainly isn't a very rigorous screening process, evidenced by the fact that they let me slip through twice! Generally you have to ask if you want to be an Admin, maybe that's not the best process, especially since all the Admins appear to be overworked.

If you want to be an admin, I'm sure we can make that happen, though it will probably be harder now that everyone involved thinks everyone else is a big stupid jerk.

JL, the Red is one of my old stomping grounds and I really miss it, I would love to see pics when your trip is done.

Dear Saxfiend (if that is your real name), I apologize for virtually pointing out your virtual ignorance in front of all your virtual friends. I am a big fat virtual asshole. Let this be a lesson to all: DO NOT QUESTION THE COMMITTEE, IN FACT, DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT!! Have a nice virtual day. Love, Mike (my real name)

you guys crack me up.