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By bradkillough
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From hartselle, Alabama
Apr 21, 2008
Cedar Wright and me

This post was originally a comment in Plastic Toys

We are going to be in the area soon and I haven't been to t-wall that much, whats the easiest, best protected trad route there? I want to carry a friend to introduce him to some less scary trad than what I put him on at my local crag. I heard this route or nappy is.

By saxfiend
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From Atlanta, GA
Apr 21, 2008
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Brad -- I'm assuming from your post that your plan is to put your friend on the sharp end, and that he's a relatively new leader. Based on that, I think Nappy might be the best one to start with in terms of easy/well-protected routes at T-Wall. It's got excellent protection and fun climbing. Plastic Toys is good too, but the start (stemming off the top of a boulder onto the face) might be a little heady for a beginning leader. Another possibility is Nutrasweet -- crack climbing with good pro and stances for placement.

I think there's also a 5.5 route right next to Nappy (New Beginnings?), but I don't have my Cragger right now so can't give more details.

JL

By bradkillough
Administrator
From hartselle, Alabama
Apr 21, 2008
Cedar Wright and me

Thanks, and yes he's a new leader. I've been working with him (tied into his own rope) on top-rope and letting him place gear and clipping his rope into the gear. Thanks for the info.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Apr 21, 2008
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

If he's a REALLY new leader (that is, never done anything besides mock lead), you might want to consider taking him to Palisades for his first true lead. There's some great easy stuff there (Buckets, 5.4, comes to mind) and the climbs are short and not so sustained and/or committing as T-Wall. Or maybe you've already done that.

JL

By bradkillough
Administrator
From hartselle, Alabama
Apr 21, 2008
Cedar Wright and me

Yea, I thought about that, Thanks!

By 5.5
Apr 22, 2008

If Nutrasweet is not wet I think it wood be a better rout then plastic toys. it is an direct 5.7 crack with good placements all the way up. it is possible to place gear every 2 feet if needed.

By bradkillough
Administrator
From hartselle, Alabama
Apr 23, 2008
Cedar Wright and me

Great Thanks for your help.

By Ben F
From Benfield, Kolorado
Apr 23, 2008

Jaywalker.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Apr 23, 2008
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Jaywalker is nice, but I wouldn't put a new leader on it.

JL

By Ben F
From Benfield, Kolorado
Apr 23, 2008

I would. It totally sews-up and since it pretty much follows 2 cracks, there's more opportunity to have the right piece.

By jeffinatlanta
From Atlanta, Ga.
Apr 25, 2008
Just a photo of me after finishing the Great Arch at Stone Mt., N.C. circa 1998.

Jaywalker is well protected enough to hangdog if the thin section of the right crack gets a little intense. Plastic toys is easier than Nappy, except for the boulder move, which has a great handhold to get you over that gap.

By bradkillough
Administrator
From hartselle, Alabama
May 19, 2008
Cedar Wright and me

Thanks everyone, you have all been a big help...!!


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