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By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 16, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

The Carolina Climbers Coalition has posted a handy topo map of the approach trail to Laurel Knob (or as some of us call it, the Bataan Death March). The map, combined with the written description in the Laurel Knob mini-guide, should help you avoid an epic just getting to the cliff.

The map can be found here

By bernard
From birmingham, al
Feb 16, 2007
summit

The approach is not that bad......and honestly, for the sake of the resource, i'm glad it is what it is......lest yet another climbing area become pedestrianized



"Give me convenience
or give me death"
dead kennedys

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 16, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

bernard wrote:
i'm glad it is what it is......lest yet another climbing area become pedestrianized

"Pedestrianized?!?" Hahaha! In light of the level of climbing there, that wouldn't happen even if the approach was a five-minute stroll from the parking lot. Glad you enjoy the hike (you're the first person I've heard of who does).

JL

By bernard
From birmingham, al
Feb 17, 2007
summit

i stole the term from porter jarrard. he used it in describing the tendency, in developmental terms, of the urge by users for climbing areas to become more accessible......the striving towards unfettered access becoming the slippery slope by which ease of access, and the accompanying impacts, become the death knell of the area itself

By Joshua Blake
From Colorado Springs
Feb 18, 2007
pirates booty

Is this the face you can see on hwy 276 on the way to Brevard. If so thumbs up to the climbers coalition. I drooled over that rock for years on my drives up north.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 18, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Joshua Blake wrote:
Is this the face you can see on hwy 276 on the way to Brevard. If so thumbs up to the climbers coalition. I drooled over that rock for years on my drives up north.

I'm not sure what rock you're describing, but it wouldn't be Laurel Knob, which is a good ways further west near Cashiers. You might post on the CCC message board, I bet someone there would know.

Here's what Laurel Knob looks like:

JL

By Rob Dillon
From Leadville, CO
Feb 18, 2007

Maybe you're drooling over Table Rock.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 18, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

That's what I was thinking too.

JL

By Joshua Blake
From Colorado Springs
Feb 18, 2007
pirates booty

Now that I actually take the time to look at a map I'm pretty sure you right. Its table. What a beautiful piece of rock. Almost makes me think I could tolerate living in the south again.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Joshua Blake wrote:
Almost makes me think I could tolerate living in the south again.

That's nice. Us southerners almost appreciate your tolerance!

JL

By Ben Faber
From Benfield, Kolorado
Feb 19, 2007

Basically like going into Big Green Mtn. unless your buddy has a nearby piece of property (I wonder). Being familiar with the area, that's quite a hike. I heard that a "shorter," 45 min. right-of-way was offered by the Jensens (the lumber yard folks), but was turned-down (again, curious).

By Jeff Mekolites
From HOTlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
How to really enjoy the Tetons...

If its hwy 276 near brevard it could be a couple of things...Cedar Rock, John's Rock or Looking Glass. Those are some of the granite domes you see around Brevard. Table Rock in near Morganton in Linville Gorge.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Jeff Mekolites wrote:
Table Rock in near Morganton in Linville Gorge.

Jeff, I'm pretty sure the Table Rock being referred to here is the one in SC, near Greenville. That probably would be visible from 276 as you head north toward Brevard. I thought I'd heard it was closed to climbing, but I'm not sure about that.

JL

By Jeff Mekolites
From HOTlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
How to really enjoy the Tetons...

Ah, Table Rock, SC. I think that might be SC HWY 11 (Cherokee Foothills Parkway) then, not HWY 276. 276 is the highway that runs through Pisgah National Forest and onto Waynesville, NC.

By Stefanie Van Wychen
From Westminster, CO
Feb 19, 2007
Showing the guns on Looking Glass.......

Correct me if I'm wrong (saxfiend), but I think I read somewhere Ben that the "shortcut" was turned down because the property owners wanted some say in the management or something of that sort......

By Jeff Mekolites
From HOTlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
How to really enjoy the Tetons...

Might be hard to find a solid answer on that one. I have heard lots of different stories on that one...personally I have no idea.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

I know a couple of guys on the CCC board, I'll ask them if there's anything to the story of easier access being offered.

JL

By Joshua Blake
From Colorado Springs
Feb 19, 2007
pirates booty

saxfiend wrote:
That's nice. Us southerners almost appreciate your tolerance! JL

After the first 23 years of my life in SC any cheepshot I take at the south goes for me too. Besides its not the people its that damn humidity. I do miss having a mobile sauna/car though.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 19, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Joshua Blake wrote:
its that damn humidity. I do miss having a mobile sauna/car though.

Heh heh, I remember being mystified when my brother moved back to Florida after about 10 years in Colorado. He said he got where he couldn't stand the cracked lips, dry nasal passages, etc., due to the lack of humidity out there!

JL

By Rob Dillon
From Leadville, CO
Feb 20, 2007

That'll be the f#@$'n day.

By Ben Faber
From Benfield, Kolorado
Feb 20, 2007

Stef,

What I heard was that the CCC turned it down. The reason given was that the current approach provides more of a wilderness experience. Again, this is hearsay. The only real difference is in the length of the approaches.

Ben

PS - hopefully you and Danny aren't experiencing crack withdrawals like I was.

By Stefanie Van Wychen
From Westminster, CO
Feb 20, 2007
Showing the guns on Looking Glass.......

Ben,

I don't know if we updated you, but we're moving to NC (Asheville). Actually Danny is already there!! So I got to get my crack fix last weekend when I went to visit Danny in Chattanooga at T-wall!! We were both kind of scared about moving to the SE for fear of losing our beautiful cracks, but it appears there are plenty there as well! However, we'll be missing the flared and offwidth splitters of Lumpy and Vedauwoo, sigh...... You'll have to come out and climb with us sometime! (although from what I remember you've climbed in that region before)

However, I have been jonesing for some front range crack, but have not been on any, although have seen plenty on the CSU campus (ladies pull up those low-rise jeans).

By Hank Caylor
From Eldorado Springs, CO
Feb 20, 2007
BASE

Ladies, do NOT listen to Stefanie! Leave those low rise jeans right where they are.

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 20, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

There are many who think the world is in terrible shape, what with wars, global warning and overly strenuous approach trails. For these pessimists and whiners, I have one answer: low-rise jeans for women have come back into fashion.

JL

By saxfiend
Administrator
From Atlanta, GA
Feb 22, 2007
Relaxing at the P1 belay of Fruit Loops at Rumbling Bald.

Ben Faber wrote:
What I heard was that the CCC turned it down. The reason given was that the current approach provides more of a wilderness experience.

Per my CCC contact: "Nothing was ever offered as to a short approach. It was discussed, but not offered." Apparently the Lonesome Valley folks wanted to exert some control (numbers of climbers allowed, etc.) if an approach were granted through their development, and the CCC wasn't interested in giving them that control. Which I think is understandable.

JL

By Ben Faber
From Benfield, Kolorado
Feb 23, 2007

Sax,

Thanks. I'll forward that to the rumor mill. However, the approach I described still isn't too short. It's around 45 minutes to an hour (if I remember correctly), but still shorter than current approach. Are the people who own the lumber yard the Lonesome Valley folks?


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