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By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
May 9, 2008
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

I'm looking for a good route to practice solo aiding on. Something fairly straightforward (C1 to C2-) with little to no free climbing. I was looking at the Pirate, but I don't have any RPs. I haven't really thought about aiding lines out at Tahquitz or Suicide before so no good ones are coming to mind. This will be tomorrow, so something that doesn't see free traffic would be best.

Is Tahquitz even open again since there was that fire last weekend?

Any good suggestions. I've been soloing this overhanging bolt ladder that's close to home, but I'm looking to practice for a solo of the West Face of Leaning Tower so overhanging would be cool.

Can't do anything at J-tree, cause I want to bring my dog.

thanks for any suggestions.

-jordan

By Fat Dad
May 9, 2008

How about Forest Lawn (A2) on Suicide? Not sure if it goes clean or, given your gear limitations, whether it'll work for you.

If you're training to solo an aid wall, don't worry so much about the steepness. Focus more on getting your system down. Way more important.

By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
May 9, 2008
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

Forest lawn definately looks cool, but I'm not a pin guy (yet). Any other ideas? I feel like I've got my systems fairly dialed, I just want to get more practice practice practice in before heading out in june.

By SAL
From broomdigiddy
May 10, 2008
great white throne as seen from moonlight buttress.

Jordan Ramey wrote:
Forest lawn definately looks cool, but I'm not a pin guy (yet). Any other ideas? I feel like I've got my systems fairly dialed, I just want to get more practice practice practice in before heading out in june.



The pirate on suicide is a top notch route for clean aid. Just dont piss off them free climbers :)

By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
May 12, 2008
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

I found this out by Stoney Point instead. Didn't get a chance to do it yet though. Hopefully soon. It looks exciting. It goes straight up the slab at 5.8+ A0 or on the side at 5.6-7ish and then traverses out to the bottom of the overhang. P2 is straight up and through the roof on old bolts.

Rocky Peak, 5.8+ C1 aid roof

By SAL
From broomdigiddy
May 12, 2008
great white throne as seen from moonlight buttress.

The rock at stoney alone is exciting yet alone aiding :)
Where is that exactly?

I cannot tell from the photo.

By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
May 12, 2008
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

wow fast. I was just re-editing the post for clarity. It's at Rocky Peak about 3 miles from Stoney Point. You can even see Stoney from here. Here's a link through which i found the route:
http://www.bigwall.com/scag_lac.html

The rock on this particular cliff seems very solid for Santa Susana Sandstone. There are tons of big boulders everywhere as well that would clean up into an awesome bouldering spot as well, much larger than Stoney Point proper.

here's another pic of a crazy form I found out there.

Rocky Peak eyeball

By SAL
From broomdigiddy
May 12, 2008
great white throne as seen from moonlight buttress.

Nice,
I'll have to go check out those boulders next trip home ;)
Stoney has gotten repetative.
Cheers
js

By Fat Dad
May 12, 2008

Another place that's not a bad place to practice is Mt. Rubidoux in Riverside. At the top of the mountain there's a huge cross, beneath which are a few OLD bolt ladders and mixed bolt and aid climbs. Back in the day I spent a decent amount of time there getting comfortable in my aiders.

Keep in mind, however, that some of those bolts, unless they've been replaced, looked old when I started climbing there thirty years ago. Despite that, they'll probably be in better shape than any old bolt ladder you'd find near Stoney.

By MJW
May 13, 2008

First...go by some RP's, offsets, and anything else you need to do C-
Aid. Forget about bolt ladders. Necessary evil but it ain't aid climbing. Go French-Free some long routes(Lost Arrow, etc)and get your systems dialed. Really, it's all about efficient systems and trusting shaky gear. Training on bolt ladders will equal dirty-drawers on the West Face.

By ttriche
From Altadena, CA
May 26, 2008
Climbing Strawberry Fields (5.9+), Old Rag, VA.

protip: one of your regular partners has a full set of offsets (and pins, and heads) which you can use if you don't fix 'em

By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
May 26, 2008
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

I would never dream of fixing any heads ;)

Thanks though Tim. Once it's dry we gotta hit that chosspile roof!

By Jordan Ramey
From South Pasadena, CA
May 27, 2008
What was left of the rack when I topped out on the last pitch of Snake Dike on Half Dome.

I've never been out to the Quarry. I thought it was all face climbing. Are there good cracks or old aid lines as well?

By Nate Johnson
From Lake Elsinore, CA
May 27, 2008
me at the end of a rappel

I havent been out there yet, but I have the book for it and from the looks of it there are a quite a few aid lines. I am heading out there on wednesday, I will let you know.

-Nate

By Fat Dad
May 28, 2008

MJW wrote:
First...go by some RP's, offsets, and anything else you need to do C- Aid. Forget about bolt ladders. Necessary evil but it ain't aid climbing. Go French-Free some long routes(Lost Arrow, etc)and get your systems dialed. Really, it's all about efficient systems and trusting shaky gear. Training on bolt ladders will equal dirty-drawers on the West Face.


I totally disagree with this suggestion. French freeing a trad route is just good practice for french freeing a trad route.

Basically, aid climbing is not just about placing gear. If you trad climb, I'm assuming that shouldn't be a huge issue if you're planning on C1-2 stuff. Aid climbing is about mastering all the crap strapped to you--daisies, aiders, fifis. You only get that by actually standing in your aiders and practicing. You might be slow at first when making inobvious placements or trusting gear, but that comes thru time and won't be cured by just yarding on a piece as you climb past it.

WFLT is really pretty light. With the exception of a couple of weird placements, it's essentially a bolt ladder. If you're not comfortable in aiders and able to move efficiently, you'll spend way too much time on the really steep first pitch (a bolt ladder!), get pumped and get intimidated.

BTW, Riverside Quarry used to be an aid climbing practice area. Me and buddy had solo aiding outings there back in the day, but I have no idea whether those routes have since bolted.


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