By regan Oct 29, 2009
| Free Coffee. Bring your own mug.
Most Saturdays and Sundays during the peak climbing season. @ Hidden Valley Campground near Intersection Rock 8 am til the coffee runs out.
Brought to you by the NPS and Friends of Joshua Tree.
See you there,
Bernadette JT Climbing Ranger |  FLAG |
By matt snider From Flagstaff AZ. Oct 29, 2009
| Andy Laakmann wrote: good idea! I agree. I remember something similiar to that in Yosemite in 2002 I think it was every Sun. by Midnight lighting. Or it could have been every other Sun. Can't remember. |  FLAG |
By Adam Stackhouse Administrator From Escondido, Ca Oct 31, 2009
| Back in the day, something similarly named was an outreach effort by the rangers to inform climbers about the rules for the park, kinda like a bait and switch... |  FLAG |
By apogee Nov 11, 2009
| Adam Stackhouse wrote: ...kinda like a bait and switch...
Man, what a negative view on a positive effort by the NPS. Take some happy pills, dude. |  FLAG |
By squiddo From Mountain View, CA Nov 11, 2009
| But, he's right. He showed up all happy with an empty cup and then the man put the smackdown on him. All for a cup of coffee.
PS, Jtree and T-Meadows Climbers Coffee is a great one. never been to the Valley one but it opportunity presented itself I'd go. |  FLAG |
By apogee Nov 11, 2009
| squiddo wrote: But, he's right. He showed up all happy with an empty cup and then the man put the smackdown on him.
Therefore any positive effort put forward by any NPS official should be viewed with suspicion? I don't buy it.
I don't know the details of that situation (and I'm open to hearing them), but chances are there were extenuating circumstances that would frame it in a different light.
I also don't know much about Adam, but I do know that adversarial relationships between climbers and land managers are not good for anyone. When a hand is extended, shake it. |  FLAG |
By squiddo From Mountain View, CA Nov 11, 2009
| I think the point was he shook the hand and then got a lecture. I approached all of them that I've been too with a wide open mind and frankly, an opportunity to chat with the service. |  FLAG |
By Aaron S From Vegas Nov 11, 2009
| Adam Stackhouse wrote: Back in the day, something similarly named was an outreach effort by the rangers to inform climbers about the rules for the park, kinda like a bait and switch...
I don't really see a problem with this. I mean, they didn't secretly fill the coffee mugs with rule pamphlets did they? |  FLAG |
By kirra Nov 11, 2009
| funny sh!t. Aaron you know that coffee can influence your brain depending upon which country it comes from -and all the fancy cross-blending & grown in-the-shade stuff who the f'knows
all I know is they saved me from my phx friends' whicked hang'ver cause they didn't pak their coffee pot
Thanks Bernadette, JT Climbing Rangers, NPS & FoJT..!!!!
note* there was a nice equipment display set-up to educate folks on the diff between the sketchy museum-type bolts & the newer safer-stuff. Beware~ of the JTRangers and their safety-display |  FLAG |
By Pat C From Honolulu,HI... was in Indio Nov 11, 2009
| when I'm home, I'll be there drinking free coffee |  FLAG |
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