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By Greg D
From Here
Aug 7, 2012
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />

Snake
Snake


So I had some climbing gear in my truck when I saw this guy which makes this appropriate for a Climbing forum. Can any one identify it? Bull snake? Looks like someone smashed his head. Poor guy. I heard bull snakes eat rattle snakes. Is that true? Perhaps someone thought they were doing a good thing.

Now that he is dead are there any good uses for it after I scare the pants off my gf?

Edit: and while we're at it let's just make this the climbing and snakes thread. Share your stories and photos of your snake encounters while climbing. What kind? Where were you? What did you do? Etc.


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By Unassigned User
Aug 7, 2012

One up
One up



If it is not cold yet I would skin it. Once it is cold it gets a little harder to skin.

Other than that just scaring people.


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By Greg D
From Here
Aug 7, 2012
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />

J Hazard wrote:


you have to reference climbing or you will get flamed.


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By Unassigned User
Aug 7, 2012

Greg D wrote:
you have to reference climbing or you will get flamed.



Oops.... should my rope look like that ^^^^


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By JesseT
From Portland, OR
Aug 7, 2012
25' drop...wheeeeee!



Found at top of P1 on Easy O at the Gunks. Not sure what kind of snake it's from. #1 C4 for scale (no pun intended).


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Aug 7, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

It's either a Bull, Pine or Gopher snake Greg. I'm not super familiar with that species, as they are not indigenous to my area. I did study herpetology as a kid, so I know at least that much. The coloration and patterns will vary with elevation and region, but they are really all very similar to each other. All in the same genus, and they are the largest of their type in North America. Beautiful snakes.


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By Finn the Human
From The Land of Ooo
Aug 7, 2012
Mathematical!

I've run into a few rattlers while climbing in BCC. Once my buddy and I were standing at the base of a climb, scoping things out. When we stepped back a ways from the wall so we could see the upper portion, I looked down and saw a baby rattler slithering along right where we had been standing 10 seconds previously. That was a little sketchy.

Another time we came across a rattler on the trail while we were on our way up to Glass Ocean. I was all for bushwhacking our way around it, but my trad mentor (who is in his sixties) would have none of that. He picked up a thick stick and started poking and prodding the snake till it got out of our way. Talk about a hardman.


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By Dustin B
From Steamboat
Aug 7, 2012
It's always a party.

looks like a bull snake to me, but I'm no expert. In the context of climbing, carry him with and next time you arrive at an anchorstation with less than great slings, just tie him into the mix, now thats some tat!


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By Sam Lightner, Jr.
From Lander, WY
Aug 7, 2012
The Shield

The internet does not have room for all my snake stories. However, here is a photo or two...

Looking for a shoe to crawl in
Looking for a shoe to crawl in


King Cobra that showed up at my birthday party in 1994. He came in mad, left dead.
King Cobra that showed up at my birthday party in 1994. He came in mad, left dead.


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By Rick Mix
From Nederland, Colorado
Aug 7, 2012

Sam that's a bull snake. California King snakes do indeed eat rattlesnakes.
Shame you had to kill the cobra.


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By timt
From Wheat Ridge, CO
Aug 7, 2012
on lead, Mean Green Cody,WY

FINALLY a topic worth posting on!
That is a bullsnake (Pituophis catenifer). They do not to my knowledge--or anyone I have spoken with--eat rattlesnakes or any snakes for that matter. This is likely confused with the kingsnake, which will eat other snakes including rattlesnakes.

There is more to do in Black Hills S.D. than just climb. On a rest day, check out Reptile Gardens. They have one of the best snake collections in the country. This is one of my personal favorites the black mamba.

black mamba
black mamba


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By Sam Lightner, Jr.
From Lander, WY
Aug 7, 2012
The Shield

Niether of mine is a bull snake.
Yeah, well, Kings are territorial. Trying to explain to the locals that its ok to have the SE Asia equivalnt to a polar bear wandering around the village cus he thought it was hi territory, does not go over well. I didn't kill him, they did, and in my opinion the way the combat went down was pretty sketchy... I wasn't sure who would die. The cobra was just under 13 feet long, so he could strike about 8.5 feet. They attacked him with 4 foot pieces of bamboo. SSSSketchy.


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By Scott O
From California
Aug 7, 2012
Batman Pinnacle

I was hiking the approach to Leaning Tower, and my glasses had fogged up pretty badly from the effort of carrying all our water and gear. I couldn't really see the trail that well, when all of a sudden my partner grabbed me from behind.

"Dude! Rattlesnake!"

Sure enough, there was a small rattlesnake in the middle of the trail that I would have stepped on if he hadn't stopped me.


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By Old and Busted
From Centennial, CO
Aug 7, 2012
Stabby

Castlewood stories could be an entire subtext to this thread:

The final move on Pay Homage at Castlewood is a blind reach over the rim to a hueco from which you clip the anchors. I came across a rattler once coiled up in it. There's no way you would know. If you pulled up high enough to look first, you'd likely get a shot to the forehead.

I was bouldering a overhanging traverse once, and crossed my hands badly. So I stepped one foot down onto a rock. The snake under it started thrashing its head violently back and forth, snapping to within a couple inches of my ankle. My hands were still crossed. Adrenaline alone allowed me to fire the V27 move up that boulder. To top it off, it was an albino rattler; bright yellow with red eyes.

Wandering the base with Hanson, he stepped up past a bush and the corner of that wall. Immediate buzzing, saw two by his feet. Then more buzzing erupts from inside the bush. He's snake dancing around, and asks me for my stick so he can probe his way back around the bush. When I javelin it back to him, I hear the buzz right by my ear. There's one up in the bush right at head level, less than an arm's length away from my face. Staring at me. Tom makes it back, we turn around. The 3rd guy with us steps over a 5' log across the trail, which sort of jerks into a lazy S shape. Momma, and she's about 4" fat in the middle. We all have to do the standing broad jump over her. Once out of that mess, we realize its sundown and they're out and we have a solid half mile of bushwacking back to the cars; or a 2 mile round-a-bout hike. We did the mileage.

Richard Wright once had one coil up onto his rope while belaying.

I've almost put my hands on them on ledges, sometimes they dart across the trail right in front of you. Had a baby one once keep darting at my Teva-bare toes while belaying. It was hyper aggressive, I'd flick dirt at it strong enough to roll it backwards, it'd uncoil from that and zing right back at me.
I could go on and on, but Sam's stories are still a dimension higher.


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By smithb
From Flagstaff, Az
Aug 7, 2012

Southern AZ:
Rattlesnakes at the base of climb, rattlesnakes at the top of climbs, rattlesnakes in the middle of climbs, on the approach, on the descent.

Near pheonix, the rattlesnakes seem to have stopped rattling...


Chuckawalla wall, St. George UT
Chuckawalla wall, St. George UT


Just about every other day in Southern AZ
Just about every other day in Southern AZ

Snuck up on me while belaying
Snuck up on me while belaying


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By matt davies
Aug 7, 2012

El Tigre wrote:
Castlewood stories could be an entire subtext to this thread: .

On the trail to go bouldering in Castlewood with my then gf, I stepped up a kinda terraced slope and realized my gf was no longer walking with me. I turned around and she was about 30 feet behind me, eyes wide as saucers and stock still. "What?" I asked, and she just pointed at the biggest goddamn rattlesnake I had ever seen, about 15 feet behind me, at least a tennis ball around in the middle and stretched across the entire 4' trail. I had managed not only not to notice it, but to luckily step over it. It didn't even rattle until I chunked a couple of rocks in his (or her?) direction. That was the end of that sesh.

It was good to meet you today Greg, did you by chance find that snake on that job?


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By Travis Dustin
From Hollis, NH
Aug 8, 2012
NH

Ran into lots of rattle snakes in Arizona while climbing/hiking. Once i thought for sure one of our group of three was going to be bite by one of the 20 or so snakes we encountered out in the middle of some canyon. Another time at J tree a rattler went under our tent while we were climbing. Our neighbors saw it and removed it for us before we got back.


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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Aug 8, 2012
rockerwaves


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By Josh Kornish
Aug 8, 2012
The Roach

My partners in Yosemite had some fun encounters with king snakes. Nothing like reaching up to a hold and grabbing a snake. They love to chill under packs as well.

A friend of a friend topped out a boulder problem here in Montana and was bitten by a rattler. He had to get a heli evac and once at the hospital was just recommended to ride it out instead of fork up the cash for anti venom.


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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Aug 8, 2012
rockerwaves

Sam Lightner, Jr. wrote:
The internet does not have room for all my snake stories.

Sam, Please tell us a snake story.
Please !


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By Greg D
From Here
Aug 8, 2012
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />

matt davies wrote:
It was good to meet you today Greg, did you by chance find that snake on that job?


Good to meet you too! No sign of the snake but it looks like he wears a 9 1/2 shoe. Can anybody identify this shoe? This mother effer stole a boat load of copper from me recently.
Sole of the thief
Sole of the thief


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By Todd Cook
From Hawthorne, CA
Aug 8, 2012
me in Africa

Western Pacific Rattlesnake at Suicide Rock

Western Pacific Rattlesnake at Suicide Rock
Western Pacific Rattlesnake at Suicide Rock


Western Pacific: hematoxin and neurotoxin = bad cocktail!

Most terrifying aspect of this one was, he refused to rattle. I suspect these are the ones that wait until you step on them or pass too close and then they bite.


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By Chad Wagner
Aug 8, 2012
me

Sean, Mark, and I went to climb Return Of Jeff Beane at RRG. We flaked the rope out and racked up, shot paper, rock, scissor for the lead and I won. Got about half way up to the last good rest and placed a solid cam. Mark was sitting on his bum leaning against his pack by a boulder and Sean was belaying. I looked down to shoot my shit eating grin at them for winning the lead and saw way more than I wanted. Out from underneath Mark's leg came the biggest copperhead I have seen. This snake just kept coming. It was all of 5' long and fat, 4" at least in girth. Mark's heart stopped, he said later, and as soon as that snake was clear from him he jumped from sitting to warrior instantly. I have never seen this 6'5 guy move that fast. He coiled up under the rope at the base and just sat there, until Sean started probing him with a stick. I was 30' up the wall telling him to stop out of fear the snake would take it out on me. What a puss right, haha. Good Stories.


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By Greg D
From Here
Aug 8, 2012
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />

So, funny story. After pranking my gf and her whole family and a few neighbors with my new pet we hear the doorbell ring at 11pm. I look through the peep hole a see a cop standing wayyyyy back. I open the door and he says don't move. There is a snake at your door. I casually walk over the snake and laugh. He came to the door to let us know we left a kids bike on the sidewalk and was met with the snake curled up at the front door. Gotcha! One more victim to the snake gag!


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By Zach Pickard
From Riverside, California
Aug 8, 2012
Roof romp

This is was my first time encountering a snake while climbing. I was out climbing with a group of friends at the Riverside Quarry. I had just clipped the chains and was being lowered this guy was right under me. So I announced that there was a rattler which immediately got the group nervous. It made its way into a hole by my be layer as I hit the ground with enough time to snatch it up by its tail.
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Rattler
Rattler


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By trix
Aug 8, 2012
trix

Check out the route "whodunit" at Tahquitz, in one of the photos (about halfway) you can zoom the photo and see a rattler in the photo hiding in a small cave/crevice. For those that dont know the route is 900 ft so the snake is about 400 ft off the deck

Rattler at suicide rock california
Rattler at suicide rock california


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