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Routes Sorted
L to R R to L Alpha
Bean Pole T,TR 
Bishop T,TR 
Bloody Fingers TR 
Chamonix TR 
Chimney, The T,TR 
Climber's Corner T 
Desperate Depression T,TR 
Diagonal T 
Double Chin T 
Double Jam T 
Fantastic Face TR 
Far Out Jam T,TR 
Far Out Jam Right T,TR 
High Anxiety (aka Silicon Shoes) TR 
Horn, The T 
Kiddie's Korner T,TR 
Loose Flake Polka TR 
Max Factor T 
Ms. Pac Man T 
No Answer T,TR 
Obscene Phone Call T 
PB & J T,TR 
Pee Pee The Sailor TR 
Roof, The T 
Short Stuff T,TR 
Start, The T 
Tramp, The T,TR 
Yellow Zonkers T,TR 
Unsorted Routes:

Short Stuff 

YDS: 5.6 French: 4c Ewbanks: 14 UIAA: V ZA: 12 British: S 4b

Type:  Trad, TR, 30'
Original:  YDS: 5.6 French: 4c Ewbanks: 14 UIAA: V ZA: 12 British: S 4b [details]
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Submitted By: Brendan Blanchard on Nov 4, 2010

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BETA PHOTO: A shot of some of the Upper Cliffs. The dihedral i...


There are some decent holds inside the crack, not too many face holds. Just wonderful awkward off-width jamming.


The off-width to the right of the chimney, left of the three parallel jam cracks. Approach to the right up a switchback type trail, find the route by looking for the 4 ft bulge of rock next to the chimney.


Large cams will get the job done. Best top-roped from the trees above, several good options.

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Rock Climbing Photo: Great route to learn off-width.
BETA PHOTO: Great route to learn off-width.
Rock Climbing Photo: Sitting atop Short Stuff
Sitting atop Short Stuff

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By Russ Keane
Oct 20, 2013

This climb is kind of ridiculous. It's a ballsy lead. Very very awkward. Think 5.7 PG but don't try it unless you are experienced!!
By Read
From: In a van down by the river, Ne
Jun 18, 2014

I agree its a bit awkward but if you are competent at placing gear it's not that bad. Maybe not a route to break into the grade but if your looking at off widths your probably a little twisted and this is a fun intro to the wide stuff with out having to dry heave on lead.
By jimmyjamz
Sep 7, 2014
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b PG13

i agree with 'russ' and 'read.'

5.6 does not come to mind on this climb. 5.7PG is a more realistic rating. awkward, tough lead.
By Eli Buzzell
From: Lives in a 4runner
Jul 12, 2015

First off-width I ever lead, the gear is fine, but it definitely wasn't an easy or fun time. Just kidding, I had a lot of fun.
By Peter Sullivan
Jun 11, 2016
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Not very tall (i.e. short stuff) but can easily be TR and a good place to practice off-width

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