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Seldom Seen  

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b R

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 75'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
FA: Mark Thesing, Paul Anikis
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Submitted By: Seth Murphy on Oct 13, 2011

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Crux is the first 20 feet, marginal gear on 5.6/5.7 climbing, don't fall through this section.


Begin 20 ft right of Scuttle. Climb the face to a small/thin right facing corner. Climb to an obvious ledge, traverse right to left facing corner and flakes.


Standard Seneca rack.

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By climbamt
May 7, 2012
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b PG13

There is an easy walk off to the climbers left- Rappelling from the big pine at the top of Scuttle is damaging the tree. When the tree goes, the ground above this climb is going to erode quickly.
By Mark Thesing
From: Central Indiana
Aug 17, 2014
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

I don't understand the R rating unless it has something to do with it not taking cams easily. I canít say if that is the case or not since I put the route up in 1984 (I think) and at the time I had very few cams and only used them when really needed. My memory of the climb is it protected very well with small to medium size stoppers and hexes. When I established the route I didnít fell protection was lacking at any point.
By Seth Murphy
Aug 21, 2014

Fully agreed Mark. I just think that this climb might be more eye-opening for the new 5.7 climber then say, Green Wall, SJM, or West Pole, which readily accept fantastic protection when ever you feel the need to place it.

But again, I agree, probably not R, and probably not 5.7.
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