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By JML
Oct 7, 2010

Anybody know him?

I got an e-mail that was one of those perfect rip-off ones..."Help, I am stranded at a foreign airport, I was mugged, I have no money, help!"

Anyway, I had never heard of this guy so I sent a nasty e-mail back to him about ripping people off. I then did a google search and saw a lot of climbing related stuff attributed to a guy by the same name. Does anybody know if the one registered here on MP is on vacation in a foreign country? If Ryan reads this, are you the one who sent the email? Just curious, I have never heard of the guy and his last post here was over a year ago. Just wondering if he is the same guy running the scam or if it is just a coincidence.

If you are not the scam artist...sorry. :) someone might have stolen your name to perpetrate this scam. If it is really you, sorry, I don't know you...should I?

Anybody else get that email?


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By Brent Apgar
From Out of the Loop
Oct 7, 2010
Me and Spearhead

First I've heard anything of the sort.


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By Brigette
From Vancouver, WA
Oct 7, 2010
At the anchors.

Those kinds of scam emails are going around. They refer to a real person, and often one you know well, but they're perpetrated by a third party. There was a forum post on here once about that...


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By Gilroy
From Boulderado
Oct 7, 2010
Thunderkiss

Please be aware of this scam. I have been on the receiving end of two such emails where people I knew well could not be sending them. The usual storyline seems to be 'I am in some sort of trouble somewhere far away.' Then the plea for money.

This email is sent to the victim's entire contact list AND the victim's emails are re-directed to another inbox until the victim can regain control of their email browser account. Obviously, this can have serious impacts on a personal and professional level.

Notify the victim offline and try to be understanding of the misadventures we can have on the www.

gilroy


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By Greg D
From Here
Oct 7, 2010
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />

This same thing happened to another MP'er a few months ago. I highly doubt Ryan has anything to do with this.


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Oct 7, 2010
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

Heh. I'm a friend and Facebook friend of Ryan's. He was indeed hacked. He posted a notice on FB that he'd been hacked, and that no one should believe any email we might get from him asking for help.

Then I received this email from Ryan's address:

"Terrible Ordeal!!! Need Urgent Help!!!

Hello,

I'm writing this with tears in my eyes, I came down here to
Wales,United Kingdom for a short vacation unfortunately I was mugged
at the park of the hotel where I lodged,all cash,credit card and cell
were stolen off me but luckily I still have my passport with me. I
have been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping
issues at all and my flight leaves in less than some hrs from now but
am having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager
won't let me leave until I settle the bills,I'm freaked out and
confused at the moment I really need your help.. I'll be waiting for
your response so you can get help to me right now.

Thanks"


--It was all quite entertaining, except probably, for Ryan.


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By Old and Busted
From Centennial, CO
Oct 7, 2010
Stabby

Ryan's entire Facebook profile is gone now, I assume that's where his Trojan Horse was implanted. I was the first to post on his profile that he'd been hacked; and now I have a Trojan Horse too. Anyone receives an e-mail from me today, just delete it asap.

I heard there was a large FB outage yesterday, I'll bet this was related.

Also, if anyone has some ideas for me on how I can de-bug my computer cheaply I'd be very thankful. I run AVG anti-virus.


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By Tim McCabe
Oct 7, 2010

Yep my wife's email was hacked a couple of years ago. She also has a FB account. I wonder if that's where these culprits find their vics. Makes me glad I don't have a FB account.


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By Dusty
From Fort Collins
Oct 7, 2010
just teasin' the sharks...

Just to counter the conjecture, I've never had a facebook account but an old email of mine was hacked in a very similar manner about a year ago. The emails are pretty transparent, you'd have to be a real fool to fall for this one...


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By RockinOut
From NY, NY
Oct 7, 2010
Gear

That email was also used in other forums I am a part of. Apparently the owner of the email address gets hacked and the hackers spam all their contacts and forums with that very same message


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Oct 7, 2010
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

Hey Mike, I posted a comment on Ryan's wall after you. I didn't think that was a very inter-active or risky action. How do you know you're now infected?


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By RockinOut
From NY, NY
Oct 7, 2010
Gear

Mike Lane wrote:
Ryan's entire Facebook profile is gone now, I assume that's where his Trojan Horse was implanted. I was the first to post on his profile that he'd been hacked; and now I have a Trojan Horse too. Anyone receives an e-mail from me today, just delete it asap. I heard there was a large FB outage yesterday, I'll bet this was related. Also, if anyone has some ideas for me on how I can de-bug my computer cheaply I'd be very thankful. I run AVG anti-virus.


You cant get a trojan by going to a persons FB page or even opening an email from them. You need to click on an executable file and download it. So unless you clicked a link in his email or on his FB page you havent been infected


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By camhead
From Vandalia, Appalachia
Oct 7, 2010
You stay away from mah pig!

Not sure if this is what happened in the case of Ryan's accounts getting hacked (my account sent the entire address book a "personal" email about great deals on flatscreen TVs earlier this year):

In the last few months on facebook, lots of people have been showing that they "like" certain websites or pictures that have intriguing titles like "You won't believe what her mom did when she saw this picture!" etc. When you click on the link, it actually has YOUR account "like" the link as well, and it spreads from there.


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By Rick Blair
From Denver
Oct 7, 2010
This is a novel auto blocking belay device.  I think it works quite well, depending on rope thickness and sheath quality, it belays very smooth.  Great to lower with.  You gotta love over engineering.  $3 at a gear swap!

I work in IT security, a couple things.

Everyone is wired differently, some people have an impulse to respond to pleas for help just like some have an impulse to gamble, that is why you see such ridiculous phishing emails. If they didn't work, you wouldn't see them, social engineering.

Combofix is a great tool if you think your system has been hijacked, be careful though, you can lose data...... but it rarely happens with this tool.

JML, please rename this thread. Someone just scanning the thread title might get the wrong idea.

The rest of you...... stay off Facebook. I have an account because it seems like you "need" one nowadays but I rarely mess with it. Its for teenagers anyway.


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By Eli Helmuth
From Estes Park, CO
Oct 7, 2010
Eli on the FA of Grizzly (M9) at the Den.

A 70 yr. old client of mine in Peru last week almost sent money while responding to one of these scams from a friend's e-mail who'd been hacked. Same MO- stuck in London.
Luckily I'd seen it before and alerted him before the money had been sent...but it was close as he would do anything to help a friend in this situation.


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By no1nprtclr
From Front range Colorado
Oct 7, 2010

I haven't read the rest of the posts to this reply.

But I know Ryan personally!! He is not the type of person to do this!!! And further more, Ryan is not in a foreign country!!! He has been working his ass off providing for his family!!!! I just text him yesterday, letting him know I've got the materials for a beer I'm brewing him. I also text him today, about this post.

But Ryan is a stand up guy who WOULD NOT send scam emails to people!!! But you would have to know him to know that!!

Juan


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By no1nprtclr
From Front range Colorado
Oct 7, 2010

Okay, read all the posts.

About facebook:

"'because it seems like you "need" one nowadays'"

You don't "need" anything like those networking blackholes.

And this is a perfect example of why one should stay away from them, there is WAY WAY too much information about us all in that quagmire called the interweb!


mi dos centavos

Juan


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Oct 7, 2010
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

Of course this site has 2 sections- the route info (AKA: beta-base), and the forums (AKA: Social Network).
For those who use sites that are password protected, and use an Email that is password protected... And use the same password, and have accounts on Gmail, hotmail, AOL, quest, etc...
Where there account is at "name@service.com" and password is the same for the sites and EMail...

How did you think that would end? If I can hack one, I've got them all!

Us a different password and/or username for your Email. The consumers union (Consumer Reports Magazine) lists social networking sites as the #1 source of bots, viruses, and other malware.


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By Ryan Tuleja
Oct 7, 2010
standing on the summit

Hey folks,
my gmail and yahoo accounts were indeed hacked, as well as my facebook. I don't know how the OP got emailed, but it was probably through the coat drive I put on a couple years ago, or when I was active with the Denver Climbers Coalition. Sorry for any inconvenience man.

As for the hack, I was unable to regain control of either my FB page or my gmail account, but was able to get them both (I believe) deleted. The hackers are contacting friends of mine via yahoo chat and gmail primarily, but used FB a bit earlier. I use different passwords for everything, so I dunno how they got so much, but my attention was focused on locking down bank accts and credit cards before I even tried deleting those addresses.

Hope this sheds some light and again, sorry to anyone who gets harrassed by this joker.


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By Tyson Anderson
From Las Vegas, NV
Oct 7, 2010
Rapping from the top of Cat in the hat

Ryan Tuleja wrote:
Hey folks, my gmail and yahoo accounts were indeed hacked, as well as my facebook.


Interesting...what browser/version do you use and do you use the save password feature?


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By JML
Oct 7, 2010

Sorry Ryan, but since I didn't know you, I had to ask. I knew it was a scam but didn't know by who...until I did the Google search, then I was sure it wasn't you. Hope this joker gets his nuts sliced off in a horrible accident.


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By Ryan Tuleja
Oct 7, 2010
standing on the summit

JML,
No worries man.

Tyson,
I dont use the save password feature, and I use several different computers/smart phones. I really dont know, but I'm pretty sure the bug came from facebook. ;(


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By George Heib
Oct 8, 2010
Holding up a lovely BD #4

Rick Blair wrote:
I work in IT security, a couple things. Everyone is wired differently, some people have an impulse to respond to pleas for help just like some have an impulse to gamble, that is why you see such ridiculous phishing emails. If they didn't work, you wouldn't see them, social engineering. Combofix is a great tool if you think your system has been hijacked, be careful though, you can lose data...... but it rarely happens with this tool. JML, please rename this thread. Someone just scanning the thread title might get the wrong idea. The rest of you...... stay off Facebook. I have an account because it seems like you "need" one nowadays but I rarely mess with it. Its for teenagers anyway.


Social Networking sites are not the problem here IMO. It is bad surfing habits related to phishing scams. You are fine using facebook, but shouldn't be snooping around on stupid apps or links. Use the site for staying in touch with friends and family, not for waisting time searching random videos or apps. It is very easy to inject malicious code into videos and create them on apps. These sites do a great job scanning for this type of code, but some slip right through. Just be wary of what you surf. As well, if you see an odd post by someone with a link that mysteriously logs you out of face book and asks you to sign back in, do yourself a quick favor and look at the site address. Using phishing techniques, black hats will recreate a facebook page on a different site and when you type in your login and password, you just gave them access to your account. It seems like this would be common sense to check the address, but you would be surprised how often it happens. A quick note to phishing, if you type in your login information by mistake on another site you are being phished through social engineering, not being hacked...these are two totally different forms of intrusion.

If you are a victim of phishing, you will not receive any type of trojan or virus so no worries; however, if you click a weird video or download an executable you don't know of, this is where you get bad files. Unfortunately, a smart black hat will inject trojans into your system files and unfortunately they are very difficult to just erase. If you think you are a victim of a trojan or virus, your best bet with fixing it would be to back up your sensitive information and reformat your computer (erases the entire system and starts from scratch). Google has steps on reformatting a computer.

As for sensitive information, sorry, but illegal movies and software, including porn, is not sensitive information. If you are doing illegal stuff like that, which I have stopped because of the highly increased chance of malicious codes you can get, I would recommend piratebay.org. Only get files from VIPs and please read the comments people right before downloading. I don't approve of it, but I am pretty sure at least 80% of the internet users do it at one point or another. Oh, and porn wise, retube.com works wonders have never seen anything bad code wise there.

Rick, I don't think I would place the definition of phishing in with those email scams as they are looking for money, not sensitive information, unless a follow up email might ask for bank information, then it is phishing. You are right about it being social engineering though. I just think the scare on these social networking sites is a bit too much...as long as you use it for its original intended purpose you are good to go. I personally will sure those sites most of the time with a virtual machine so malicious code causes no harm to the rest of my system and I can just delete the files if they become infected.


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By Rick Blair
From Denver
Oct 8, 2010
This is a novel auto blocking belay device.  I think it works quite well, depending on rope thickness and sheath quality, it belays very smooth.  Great to lower with.  You gotta love over engineering.  $3 at a gear swap!

George Heib wrote:
I just think the scare on these social networking sites is a bit too much...as long as you use it for its original intended purpose you are good to go. I personally will sure those sites most of the time with a virtual machine so malicious code causes no harm to the rest of my system and I can just delete the files if they become infected.

I will admit that I have a bias against social networking site, I find them to be absolutely ridiculous. They are definitely patterned to the habits of teenagers by design. This attitude encourages Facebook to favor new features over security IMO. All the things you stated above are true but try explaining that to my mom. It's better to tell her just to stay off of it or drastically limit her use.

I have my entire family now using Macs, my support calls have gone from like 3 a month to 3 a year. Though it is not difficult, if I find myself having to stab up a VM to visit a web site, I'd just rather not go there. I use only Mac and Linux at home so that reduces my exposure quite a bit.

I used to subscribe to a mom and pop ISP, one day I did an SNMP info query of the DSLAM using the public string. The person running the ISP was storing user account and password in the comment field for each interface. If I was malicious I could have tried those credentials at gmail/hotmail etc, I'm sure I would have gotten at least a couple logins. I was in the clear because my password for the ISP was not used by me anywhere else. Just goes to show, you never know where your security risks are.


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By no1nprtclr
From Front range Colorado
Oct 9, 2010

"' I use only Mac and Linux at home so that reduces my exposure quite a bit.'"

Smart feller, as do I use Mac and Linux (Ubuntu). But I don't think poor Ryan uses either of those, if I remember correctly anyway, poor Ryan, hehe chuckle chuckle... Just eggin' ya Ryan. On the serious note, I can only imagine that it sucks to be intruded like that. I honestly cannot see myself using Microshaft, I think I would give up using a computer before going to, uh, that!!

Hey, kind of reminds me of a couple of posts from some fella out in Arizona or Utah who complained twice of too many people "hacking" his route the times he went. LOL Sorry man, kind of had the poke the ribs a little, well not sorry, but had to poke a little fun!!

Juan


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By George Heib
Oct 10, 2010
Holding up a lovely BD #4

Rick, very well put on the security risk issues. Too many people think anitvirus software is the way to go, but never realize the massive security holes presented everywhere due to improper information assurance programs. I think another point to put out there is that ready to run Windows OSs default NetBIOS and remote connections on and open up a very easy way to gain access to computers to slave them as zombie machines.

I was a long time against MAC person for quite awhile until I finally opted for the more stable and powerful macbook. I have yet since stopped turning on my massive homebuilt windows desktop and have my multiscreens sitting right behind my macbook. These little machines are retarded powerful and very bug free and user friendly (once you learn the layout of course). Granted, most users have a very hard time adapting to a new OS but it is well worth the switch. My advice to people afraid to switch to a MAC: "When in doubt, google it out." Google can answer so many questions on how to do something on anything. There are tons of instructions sites that help people switch to a MAC. Besides, I have had my MAC for two years now and I have not once had a single crash and I have kept this bad boy on for months at a time. Ok, so I have had a few lockups on EVE Online when exiting, but that is the software not the hardware.


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