Wow buddy what do you have against spot climbers and bouldering (both have hepled my trad game)? Trad, sport, and bouldering are all types of climbing have some respect. And It is possible to create rope drag on a bolted climb, some spot climber may have some advice that could help you. So How were you introduced to climbing? It sound like you haven't been climbing trad that long.

Are you just someone that wants to turn this sport into something like surfing? Where nearly every one in the water thinks they are just to cool to speak to one another. And there is some dumb conflict between long boarding and short boarding.

Yea I don't talk to boulders cos bouldering is bad for my ankles, I don't talk to sport climbers cos all they wanna do is project and someone to bitch belay them, I only talk to trad climbers cos they got the best epics to share and moderate long routes are up my alley and the gear just plain kicks a$s! I don't talk to non climbers at all.

I have to admit, you're annoying enough that I'd probably avoid helping you in an emergency.

ok im not instigating this. Thank you for all the helpful tips and yes i do sport climb and even the unspeakable: .....here it goes....gym climb! every type of climbing makes you a better overall climber. But I don't boulder and dont talk to non climbers its true. no disrespect yo all.

Don't link pitches.
Add more belays in traversing sections.
Back clean gear when possible.
Place fewer pieces.

a good trick I learned is to scope out a straight line from start to anchors before i start climbing. when I place a piece I pull out the draw or sling towards my imaginary straight line. if it doesnt reach I extend.

another thing I see many people doing is their belayer standing away from the base of the route. this puts a zig in your line and adds friction, and will also add stress to your first piece if you whip. make em stand as close to directly under that piece as possible.

Is this turning into another Eleanor-bashing thread? I need to keep up with the latest hate!

On serious note : thank you all! Whoever that Elanor is she is funny too. Peace! !! Climbing rocks!!!!

I support Ellenore for Troll princess of the criminally insane! Long live the troll!

There's also this post, which happens to be another of her earliest posts, in which she mentions being new to "tradding" (whatever that is...).

It seems that someone became something of a climbing snob rather quickly...

Why do people think im a snob im like the most laid back relaxed person in the world...for real!

If its ok to get back on teh topic of the thread.. the DMM revolver biner can be great for an out of the way placement. They're expensive, but can greatly reduce drag, nice to have one or two draws set up with them in your rack.

TROLL WON.....

TROLL got fed.......



TROLL FED YOU.......

Ah good on ya !!!

Assuming this is not a troll...

Do you climb a lot of slab? Slabs give you rope drag pretty much invariably (the friction between the rope and the rock) even if you do everything else right.