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By ArielZ
Jun 2, 2008
grays peak, 1st 14er
Hey all,
i wanted to try to get some beta for a trip a buddy and i are planning. We are leaving from CO to do some climbing in Tennessee, West Virginia, and possibbly alabama. We are looking for intermediate sport routes. We are also looking for places to swim, and hopefully find some cliffs to jump off of. Im not sure if this is legal everywhere or if the time of year is good for it. Iv'e also heard rumors of possible places for deep water soloing. Any information where these two spots can be found in one destination would be very apreciated. Thanks kindly
ariel

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By Allen Freeman
Jun 2, 2008
ArielZ wrote:
Hey all, i wanted to try to get some beta for a trip a buddy and i are planning. We are leaving from CO to do some climbing in Tennessee, West Virginia, and possibbly alabama. We are looking for intermediate sport routes. We are also looking for places to swim, and hopefully find some cliffs to jump off of. Im not sure if this is legal everywhere or if the time of year is good for it. Iv'e also heard rumors of possible places for deep water soloing. Any information where these two spots can be found in one destination would be very apreciated. Thanks kindly ariel


DWS has been banned at the summersville lake area of the New River Gorge. The lake still makes a nice place to swim though and there's a ton of sport in the area.

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By Brad "Stonyman" Killough
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From Alabama
Jun 2, 2008
Starting the second section of Live to climb another day
ArielZ wrote:
Hey all, i wanted to try to get some beta for a trip a buddy and i are planning. We are leaving from CO to do some climbing in Tennessee, West Virginia, and possibbly alabama. We are looking for intermediate sport routes. We are also looking for places to swim, and hopefully find some cliffs to jump off of. Im not sure if this is legal everywhere or if the time of year is good for it. Iv'e also heard rumors of possible places for deep water soloing. Any information where these two spots can be found in one destination would be very apreciated. Thanks kindly ariel


Try Foster Falls in Tn. ( has a great swimming hole too)
Look at the destination section under Tennessee!!
Also in Alabama check out Sand Rock, lots of great sport routes!!

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By Joey Wolfe
Jun 2, 2008
Brad is on track, Nickajack is near Foster Falls, the link below should help. Also, check out a map or google earth. Looks good.

Nickajack Lake

Maybe we'll see ya out there

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By Brad "Stonyman" Killough
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From Alabama
Jun 22, 2008
Starting the second section of Live to climb another day
ArielZ wrote:
Hey all, i wanted to try to get some beta for a trip a buddy and i are planning. We are leaving from CO to do some climbing in Tennessee, West Virginia, and possibbly alabama. We are looking for intermediate sport routes. We are also looking for places to swim, and hopefully find some cliffs to jump off of. Im not sure if this is legal everywhere or if the time of year is good for it. Iv'e also heard rumors of possible places for deep water soloing. Any information where these two spots can be found in one destination would be very apreciated. Thanks kindly ariel

Let us know how it went!!! Be safe!

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By Dusty
From Fort Collins
Jun 22, 2008
just teasin' the sharks...
I went to Summersville Lake about 8 summers ago. We had so much fun jumping off the biggest cliffs we could find that we hardly did any climbing.

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By Ladd Raine
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From Plymouth, NH
Jun 27, 2008
Waiting for lift-off, Thin Air(5.6) Cathedral Ledge, NH
Will A. wrote:
DWS is not necessarily banned @ Summersville, but falling is. though it's really not too hard to get away with, it's a big lake.Personally i feel the dws is good enough to risk being caught, though i've never heard of anyone actually being caught. Just don't make yourself stand out.


I have seen many climbers and tourists have conversations regarding cliff jumping with law enforcement officals in motorboats, although I have neevr seen a ticket actually given out.

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By Ronin
From Smoke Hole Canyon
Jul 9, 2008
Almost Heaven nothing... this IS Heaven.  Climbing parallel to my young friend Andreas on a perfect fall day.
Will A. wrote:
DWS is not necessarily banned @ Summersville, but falling is. though it's really not too hard to get away with, it's a big lake.Personally i feel the dws is good enough to risk being caught, though i've never heard of anyone actually being caught. Just don't make yourself stand out.


Okay, kids, here's a clue- IT'S ILLEGAL! Here's some simple math: Repeated illegal activities + climbers + law enforcement = climbing bans. A good many folks in the NPS/NFS are already unhappy about climbing at Summersville as it is, and if you think that everyone around the NRG loves climbers, you best think again, Gilligan. Far more money comes into that place from boaters who come, do their little raft trip, and go home, than is created by all the out-of-state climbers (who typically buy all their food, gas, and other necessities before embarking), or the guiding services and their clients. Stupid climbers breaking the law or self-important out-of-staters encouraging others to do so (as in: "I've never seen a ticket handed out... " ) is not what we need. We have little enough money for the cops available in WV without some jackholes from out of state coming in to waste state and local resources breaking laws they knew about in advance.

Ariel- WV is in the middle of a semi-drought.. the rivers are down to their lowest levels since last summer, which was the driest in a decade. If you want to do some intermediate sport, try Franklin Gorge, in Franklin, WV. Don't waste your time looking for it here... the guy who put the crag on this site didn't include any real beta on routes after upping his points and ensuring an increase in impact. Don't bother with the Horstshite/Falcon Press guide to WV/MD/VA either... Eric Hair Club for Men Horst had about as much accurate information as... well... the guy who put it onsite here. Besides, we've added and decommisioned so many routes that his guidebook is even more inaccurate than it was when printed, which is saying something.

Check out the database at rockclimbing.com for all the beta you need... I'm the WV DB editor there, as well as one of the people who created routes, built the trails and maintains the hardware at Franklin, so you can count on that info being correct and up-to-the-minute accurate.

If you need additional beta on camping or climbing in the area, email me wvmgray@gmail.com, or roninthorne@rockclimbing.com.

Have a great trip!

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By John Maurer
Jul 9, 2008
Crested Butte, looking for a landing . . .
Go jump @ Blue Mesa outside of Gunnison, CO . . . the deep south is really hot this time of year, anyway. I've climbed at Foster Falls, the T-Wall, and Suck Creek during the summer and would not recommend doing so for those who are used to the dry air here in Colorado. On the other hand, the area surrounding Chattanooga is loaded with "Blue Holes" along the creeks that are great for swimming and cliff jumping.

Regarding Blue Mesa, there is a warning sign at the main cliff about shallow water - but the cliffs are a popular attraction for boaters and students from Western State College. The water will probably be very high right now given the snow melt, so I'd expect the highest cliff (The Running Man) to be 55 feet or so. When the water is low this thing can be huge. There always seems to be someone in Gunnison with their neck in an immobilizing brace from a poor take-off. There are taller cliffs on the Painted Wall down the Gunnison River in the Black Canyon, if Blue Mesa isn't big enough.

If you do go to Tennessee, there's a little BBQ shack at the base of Signal Mountain (Buford's, I think). They have great sandwiches which were about $2.50 last time I was there. Plus, you may bump into Mr. Belding, from Saved By the Bell - it's a favorite hangout of his.

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By Marc H
From Lafayette, CO
Jul 9, 2008
The Cathedral Spires in RMNP, left to right: Stiletto, Sharkstooth, Forbidden Tower, Petit Grepon, The Saber, The Foil, The Moon & The Jackknife.
Ronin wrote:
Okay, kids, here's a clue- IT'S ILLEGAL! Here's some simple math: Repeated illegal activities + climbers + law enforcement = climbing bans. A good many folks in the NPS/NFS are already unhappy about climbing at Summersville as it is, and if you think that everyone around the NRG loves climbers, you best think again, Gilligan. Far more money comes into that place from boaters who come, do their little raft trip, and go home, than is created by all the out-of-state climbers (who typically buy all their food, gas, and other necessities before embarking), or the guiding services and their clients. Stupid climbers breaking the law or self-important out-of-staters encouraging others to do so (as in: "I've never seen a ticket handed out... " ) is not what we need. We have little enough money for the cops available in WV without some jackholes from out of state coming in to waste state and local resources breaking laws they knew about in advance. Ariel- WV is in the middle of a semi-drought.. the rivers are down to their lowest levels since last summer, which was the driest in a decade. If you want to do some intermediate sport, try Franklin Gorge, in Franklin, WV. Don't waste your time looking for it here... the guy who put the crag on this site didn't include any real beta on routes after upping his points and ensuring an increase in impact. Don't bother with the Horstshite/Falcon Press guide to WV/MD/VA either... Eric Hair Club for Men Horst had about as much accurate information as... well... the guy who put it onsite here. Besides, we've added and decommisioned so many routes that his guidebook is even more inaccurate than it was when printed, which is saying something.


The condescension and anger that is dripping from your post takes away from the good points that you make. Just some food for thought.

--Marc

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By YDPL8S
From Santa Monica, Ca.
Jul 9, 2008
Bouldering at right side of Sun Deck
Yeah Agent, I've jumped that Blue Mesa cliff, with Keds on, lost my verticality on the way down and had to windmill my arms to get back to vertical. I went in the water that way and had real pretty purple and green undersides of my arms for weeks and had to walk around like I was being crucified. I've also seen the water so high that we jumped off of the Lake City bridge at the East end of the res.

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By John Maurer
Jul 9, 2008
Crested Butte, looking for a landing . . .
The water under the Lake City bridge fluctuates wildly - I've seen the water so high no boat could go under it . . . but some years back it was a stream 5 feet across underneath . . . the cliffs down the reservoir were enormous and some of the rocks on the right side of the jumping area were islands 5+ feet above the H20. I swear the Running Man was 75+ feet.

I think bruising and raspberries are pretty common - and very hard to avoid after a day of jumping. Always something to hit up at least once each summer. Looks like the walls developing up Engineer Pass are a perfect excuse to head west.

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By John Maurer
Jul 9, 2008
Crested Butte, looking for a landing . . .
Scott M. Mossman wrote:
. . . lost my verticality on the way down and had to windmill my arms to get back to vertical . . .


Scott . . . I think you caught a case of "Rollin' Down the Windows!"

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