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RMC 

YDS: 5.5 French: 4b Ewbanks: 13 UIAA: IV+ ZA: 11 British: MS 4a

   
Type:  Trad, 3 pitches, 180'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.5 French: 4b Ewbanks: 13 UIAA: IV+ ZA: 11 British: MS 4a [details]
FA: Ralph Clapp and Grant Oakley
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Submitted By: Tim Schafstall on Apr 2, 2008

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Krista's first lead! The start of RMC.

Description 

P1 - Climb cracks and a short corner to a small overhang, then climb right on the top of the detached block. Or - scramble up the blocks leaning against the face to the right, to reach the same place. Up a crack (crux), then move left to a small ledge and tree.

P2 - From the belay tree, step up and left, then climb the nice face over a small bulge (crux) and up a small right-facing corner to a nice ledge and another tree.

P3 - Step left and climb the nice face past some old fixed pins (no need to clip, plenty of cam placements) with excellent gear to the top.

There may be a rap station at the top, but it's actually faster to descend to the left via Radcliff or Uberfall Descent.

Location 

Below some broken cracks and a partially detached block, just a bit right and down from Jackie and Classic.

Protection 

Standard Gunks rack. G.


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1st pitch, right before you traverse over the larg...
BETA PHOTO: 1st pitch, right before you traverse over the larg...
RMC's first pitch traverse to the anchor
RMC's first pitch traverse to the anchor
Looking up the 3rd pitch or RMC
Looking up the 3rd pitch or RMC
The start of RMC
BETA PHOTO: The start of RMC
P2 RMC: this is a view of the pro trail starting a...
BETA PHOTO: P2 RMC: this is a view of the pro trail starting a...

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By Charlie S
From: Ogden, UT
Aug 24, 2008

There's a lot of 5.5 for the climb. Definitely worth it. Can link first and second pitches.
By losbill
Aug 24, 2008

I agree. Excellent lead for someone new to the Gunks, a little overhang, a bit of a thoughtful, sequency bulge, and a pleasant grab & haul finish. You can run P1 and P2 together. However for the new leader I would recommend doing it in 3 pitches, belaying at the small pine at the end of P1. This will lessen the chance of rope drag issues.
By doligo
Nov 17, 2009
rating: 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a PG13

Williams gives P2 a G rating, maybe it was wet when I climbed it, but even with pins, the bulgey crux move was a tiny bit run-out, IMO. And the flake on P1 under the roof looks like it's not attached to anything - it was wet, so I kinda had to use ever so gently. I would avoid using it all costs when it's dry!
By gblauer
From: Wayne, PA
Apr 6, 2010

RMC is a great little climb for a moderate leader. It has a little bit of excitement as you exit under the roof, an exposed move over a bulge and then happy/easy climbing up to the top on the third pitch.

It's ususally open and the variety makes it a "must do" for any moderate leader.
By Optimistic
From: New Paltz
Sep 18, 2010

This is a cool route, all the way to the top. I disagree with a prior comment: I would link P1 and P2. If you are belaying at the P1 tree and the leader falls off the crux move, he/she will hit both the belayer and the tree, most likely, and do so with about 10 feet of rope out. Safer to add a few long slings on P1 to deal with the drag, and just cruise on through to the P2 belay. Plus that little tree would prefer you leave it alone and just back up the pin above with a 2" cam.

Pretty committing crux move, too. The guy ahead of us backed off. I wouldn't want this to be my first 5.5 lead, for sure! Beautiful climb, though...
By Dana Bartlett
From: CT
Mar 24, 2011

One of my favorite routes at the 'Gunks.
By Barrett Stetson
May 1, 2011

P1: The block in the middle of pitch 1 does look a bit sketchy, I wouldn't put pro behind it and wouldn't have stepped on it if I didn't have to. Otherwise kind of interesting-ish moves I suppose.

P2: Belaying at the tree isn't a terribly comfortable belay, but I think I would've had severe rope drag trying to link the first 2 pitches. I hate having to trust a pin, and I was able to sort of get a 00 Mastercam in next to the pin, but I didn't want to fall on either. Was suprised to have to pull the bulge on the crimpers on a 5.5-. Did Jackie the day before and found that much easier.

P3: Only 5.3, but I found it a tad awkward, a short run out spot, and not very exciting.

My girlfriend didn't like the climb whatsoever.
By Kevin Heckeler
From: Upstate New York
Apr 21, 2012
rating: 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a

The block on P1 aint going anywhere. I even slung it for pro. I'm usually very cautious about such things, but it's wedged in there really good.

The crux move on P2 is height dependent. For a taller person reaching up left makes it 5.5, otherwise it's a crimpy/balancy move for the grade.

I combined P1 and 2, backcleaning when I could to eliminate rope drag while also ensuring to protect my follow. Just extend all your alpine runners.

P2 is not that long, and really combining P1 and2 puts you at the same height as P1 of Jackie and others in the area.


Pitch 3 is worth doing but the least interesting.
By stephanie maltarich
May 8, 2013

I took a lead fall from the second pitch last Saturday, busted my ankle, and now can't walk. I have a few comments maybe worth noting:

1. I fell from pitch two at the crux above the piton (from the tree, the piton to the left) THE PITON HELD MY LEAD FALL. Maybe shouldn't always be trusted, but just thought I'd throw it out there that it was legit. I took a good look at it before I clipped it and thought it looked ok. Agree with previous comment, I wasn't able to find any good gear after the piton...

2. Maybe I agree with whoever noted this climb rating is "height dependent" I am 5'4" and have lead several 5.6 climbs in the Gunks, but I was on two crimpy handholds and was trying to smear up with my foot. I couldn't reach any bigger holds. The rock on that crux is kind of polished and my foot slipped while I was smearing, and I took a whipper.
By JSH
Administrator
May 10, 2013

Hope it heals quickly, Stephanie!
By dragons
From: Lowell, MA
Jun 23, 2014

5'0" here. I led P2 today, after taking beta photos of gear placements when following my partner (I've uploaded one for those who may be interested).

I was super-cautious on this route because of the broken ankle report (thanks to Stephanie for the warning). There's a decent toehold near the initial piton, and a couple similar sized holds up about 5 to 6 feet left of that, close to the slot where I put a Metolius Master Cam 0. Had to pull up to check that it fit okay... and it was set perfectly. So, it can be done - just be cautious, all you shorties!
By Dan Africk
From: Brooklyn, New York
Oct 27, 2014
rating: 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a

Nice climb, I found it mostly pretty easy, but a few moves on the first pitch seemed intimidating until I did them- partly because the completely detached (but apparently stable) blocks were unnerving.

P2 wasn't bad, I got a tricam or two in before the Piton, which looked solid and I clipped with a screamer (If you're relying on pitons as key pieces, you really should use screamers, they're light and cheap and makes it so much safer- even if the piton fails, it brings you closer to your next piece with a much softer fall). I'm 5'10" with long arms, maybe it would be harder for shorter people. P3 is a ladder, 5.4 at most, just traverse left and follow the pitons up.

Two raps with a 70m rope- From the top, and the next belay tree. Slings at the top tree were borderline and could use new webbing (As of 10/26/2014). I added a fresh sling to the tree below that, the old ones are garbage but I left them for padding.