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By rogerbenton
Apr 16, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible...
i used new 9/16" tubular nylon webbing.

water knot, with one of the tails wrapped around the thumb loop, to double up the material at the contact point and hopefully help spread the load.

rubber band to hold everything in place.

is this kosher or dangerous?


new sling
new sling


close up of water knot
close up of water knot



other side of knot
other side of knot

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By S Denny
From Aspen, CO
Apr 16, 2012
yer gonna die

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By rogerbenton
Apr 16, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible...
thanks

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By Brendan Blanchard
From Strafford, NH
Apr 16, 2012
Obi Wan Ryobi - Darth Vader Crag, Rumney NH
Make sure to check the water knot fairly often, generally 6-8" tail is customary, but at that point, paying to get them re-slung would probably be better anyway.

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By randy88fj62
Apr 16, 2012
Thunderbolt Peak in the Palisades
Watch the water knot tail...

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By mkeown
From Denver, CO
Apr 16, 2012
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That looks terrible. Just spend the money and have someone do it correctly.

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By Jon O'Brien
From Nevada
Apr 16, 2012
send it to yates, they re-sling for a couple bucks a cam.


i think that what you did is safe. just cumbersome, heavy, and a downgrade to the original.

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Apr 16, 2012
Topo - Cliffs in Green
good rule of thumb from back in the day, tail length should = 2x knot length.

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By Larry
From SoAZ
Apr 16, 2012
If the "loose" end of the tail is the one secured by the rubber band, you'll die less often.

The rubber band will rot eventually, but you knew that.

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By DexterRutecki
From Cincinnati, Ohio
Apr 16, 2012
All so you can save $3???

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By rogerbenton
Apr 16, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible...
sounds like i should be sending this out for a professional re-sling.
i had no idea it was only a few bucks @ yates, thanks for the advice.

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By rogerbenton
Apr 16, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible...
DexterRutecki wrote:
All so you can save $3???


where can i get this done "right" for $3?

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By timt
From Wheat Ridge, CO
Apr 16, 2012
on lead, Mean Green Cody,WY
I just got a bunch of aliens done at mountain tools in california. the new slings are better than the originals & the turn around time was really quick (2 weeks-ish). it was around $5 or $6 each plus shipping. Yates has the caveat on their site that says they won't resling cams over 10 years old, so you might want to check the stamp on your cam.

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By rogerbenton
Apr 16, 2012
Whoever this guy is, he's just plain irresponsible...
thanks timt!

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By Leeroy
Apr 16, 2012
That sling job looks fine. It's a little bulky for my taste but if you're broke it'll do the job. Just check the tails every once in a while. As an alternative to the rubber band you could hand stitch a few threads of high strength kevlar fishing line through the sling to keep it in place.

Yer gunna die, but not because that sling fails you.

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By Andy Novak
From Golden, Co
Apr 16, 2012
Living the High Life.
That looks FINE. Just watch the tail, its a little short My entire rack looks like that. Why would I want to be without my cams for 2 weeks, and pay $5 when I can do myself for .60 cents?

Yer KNOT gonna die.

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By samsonight
Apr 16, 2012
I see what you did there

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By Ethan Henderson
From Silverdale, WA
Apr 16, 2012
aliens
id whip on that.

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By "H"
From Manitou Springs
Apr 16, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun
Check out this video from DMM. I know it's regarding dyneema slings, but hmmm.

DMM tests knotted dyneem slings

On another note I handslung my old #3 cam, and have fallen on it a few times since. I'm still here, it works but you need to keep checking the knot. So you can balance cost/convenience vs peace of mind?

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By Hmann2
Apr 21, 2012
the fridge leavenworth
I did the same thing on an old Clog cam. Taken a 10ft whip on it before, and it held. Just make sure you check the knot every time before you use it.

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By wivanoff
May 4, 2012
High Exposure
How about a short sewn sling and a basket hitch? You could use tape or stitch the ends together so that you don't clip only one.
TCU basket hitch
TCU basket hitch



See:
dmmclimbing.com/news/2011/12/i...

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By rgold
From Poughkeepsie, NY
May 4, 2012
The traverse out to the Yellow Ridge on the Dogsti...
The tail on that knot is TOO SHORT. Yeah, you need to check water knots, but a tail that short can be inside the knot while you're doggin' yer proj and before you notice it. Other than that the sling job is fine.

Knots on slings like that should be tightened by bodyweight bouncing. But the tail is still too short for comfort.

Although it will add even more bulk, I'd go for the extra strength and security of a double fisherman's knot. Optionally, you can tie it around both strands, pull it up against the wire loop, and so dispense with the rubber band, but that does make for a much stiffer connection.

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By matt davies
May 4, 2012
Bomber

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By Dr. Rocktopolus
From Chattanooga, TN
May 21, 2012
Whipping on the redpoint crux of " The Theate...
The basket hitch is a pretty stellar set up... try that...

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By caughtinside
From Oakland CA
May 21, 2012
20 kN wrote:
But equally as important, you want to be very careful using a rubber band or String on an open loop sling. If that loop were to make its way through the maincable hole and over to the other side, it would be held on only by the rubber band. You could fail to notice, fall on it, rip the band, and deck. That is the exact reason why Petzl says you should not use Strings on open slings; they should only be used on quickdraws, and only on the rope side.


That isn't a danger here. The sling is actually tied through the loop. There is no way for it to thread through and disconnect from the loop without untying the knot.

You tend to see guys using rubber bands/tape/String on the biner end where disattachment is a possibility.

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By miwuksurfer
From Santa Barbara
Aug 27, 2012
Wivanoff, that sling is more expensive than having Metolius resling that at the factory.

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