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By Kyle B.
From Eldorado Springs
Apr 4, 2012

I have been going to REI since before i was a climber. Since I was a wee youngling backpacking around in Boy Scouts. Always, I was in need of some new sort of equipment for the outdoor world.
Then I began climbing. Since then, my needs at REI have become a bit more focused. New pro, slings, helmet, shoes,etc. Well I bought a pair of the La Sportiva Miura's almost 3 years ago and have had them resoled as needed. Well I went into REI with my diviend and 3 year old shoes and returned them to exchange with the same pair. I blew out the bottom just behind the toes through the plastic and the resolers couldn't fix it.
Well with REI's exchange policy that shouldn't be a problem. EXCEPT, when REI fails. They no longer even carry the La Sportiva Miura's. As I see it now, REI simply carries the worst shoes from the best companies. IT irks me to no end that their shoe selction has become a giant pile of choss. Not to mention having to wait almost 20 minutes in the climbing area with no help before I just start opening their shoe cabinets myself to find the product I'm looking for.
At least, their saving grace, the fact that they let me order my shoes through La Sportiva and still use my store credit to purchase them. Thank whatever higher spirit decided to give REI such an ungodly return policy. I'm still very angry that the climbing selection has become so terrible.
I feel better after ranting, but I feel something needs to be done at the Colorado REI's. I went to the Denver one a couple of weeks ago and was blown away at how bad their climbing section is. OOOOOOOOHHHHH they have a crap wall you can test your shoes on, I get it. Too bad if you have no good shoes to choose from, what's the point. I guess noobs and gumby's don't know that. I should take solice in the fact that I'm at least still able to procure the La Sportiva Miura lace-ups. But im curious as to why REI has decided to get rid of all their good shoes. Anyone who works at REI have any imput? And for the Record most of this happened at the Boulder REI.


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By Kai Huang
From Thornton, CO
Apr 4, 2012

Kyle B. wrote:
Well I bought a pair of the La Sportiva Miura's almost 3 years ago and have had them resoled as needed. Well I went into REI with my diviend and 3 year old shoes and returned them to exchange with the same pair. I blew out the bottom just behind the toes through the plastic and the resolers couldn't fix it. Well with REI's exchange policy that shouldn't be a problem.



LOL!!!


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By csproul
Apr 4, 2012
Summit of Wolf's Head with Pingora in the background

Kyle B. wrote:
I have been going to REI since before i was a climber. Since I was a wee youngling backpacking around in Boy Scouts. Always, I was in need of some new sort of equipment for the outdoor world. Then I began climbing. Since then, my needs at REI have become a bit more focused. New pro, slings, helmet, shoes,etc. Well I bought a pair of the La Sportiva Miura's almost 3 years ago and have had them resoled as needed. Well I went into REI with my diviend and 3 year old shoes and returned them to exchange with the same pair. I blew out the bottom just behind the toes through the plastic and the resolers couldn't fix it. Well with REI's exchange policy that shouldn't be a problem. EXCEPT, when REI fails. They no longer even carry the La Sportiva Miura's. As I see it now, REI simply carries the worst shoes from the best companies. IT irks me to no end that their shoe selction has become a giant pile of choss. Not to mention having to wait almost 20 minutes in the climbing area with no help before I just start opening their shoe cabinets myself to find the product I'm looking for. At least, their saving grace, the fact that they let me order my shoes through La Sportiva and still use my store credit to purchase them. Thank whatever higher spirit decided to give REI such an ungodly return policy. I'm still very angry that the climbing selection has become so terrible. I feel better after ranting, but I feel something needs to be done at the Colorado REI's. I went to the Denver one a couple of weeks ago and was blown away at how bad their climbing section is. OOOOOOOOHHHHH they have a crap wall you can test your shoes on, I get it. Too bad if you have no good shoes to choose from, what's the point. I guess noobs and gumby's don't know that. I should take solice in the fact that I'm at least still able to procure the La Sportiva Miura lace-ups. But im curious as to why REI has decided to get rid of all their good shoes. Anyone who works at REI have any imput? And for the Record most of this happened at the Boulder REI.

So, wait...you returned a 3 year old pair of shoes that had been resoled? Sounds like an abuse of the return policy to me. I can't believe they didn't laugh you out of the store. And yes, REI's climbing selection sucks.


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By Andrew williams
Apr 4, 2012
Mental Games Apple Valley

With REI's horrendous return policy i think, UR GONNA DIEEEEEE!!!!!!


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By Troll detector
Apr 4, 2012

hmm
hmm
Submitted By: Troll detector on Apr 4, 2012


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By Ryan Williams
Administrator
From London (sort of)
Apr 4, 2012
El Chorro

This is a case of abuse, plain and simple. It is because of things like this that companies are starting to cut back on their generous return policies.


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By S Denny
From Carbondale, CO
Apr 4, 2012

REI has always sucked. Their return policy is the only reason real climbers buy anything there. It appears they also dropped Five Ten entirely... climbers are simply not their biggest market. Support Neptune, or buy online... or search for a bro deal if you're real cool


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By Christian
From Tucson, Az
Apr 4, 2012

Yeah, something needs to be done. They need to ban idiots like you from their stores permanently.


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By Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
Apr 4, 2012
Tough Mantle Problem.  Haven't sent yet...

You're a serious douche for returning three year old resoled shoes. I hope when you finally go after something in life that people take advantage of you the way you are taking advantage of a retailer that goes above and beyond what they should be expected to do.


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By climbamt
Apr 4, 2012

Christian wrote:
Yeah, something needs to be done. They need to ban idiots like you from their stores permanently.



+1


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By thomas ellis
From abq
Apr 4, 2012
Moira and I in Toulumne after a near death off route scramble fest

You sound like an idiot. You deserve nothing. You abuse a return policy and still manage to get the product you want and you're still whining...
Grow up or try to get back in the boyscouts.
PS: rei is not a climbing store. It's a outdoor retailer. Try a local gear shop. Oh snap! They won't take back your dank fungal old clogs.


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By Phill T
Apr 4, 2012

you think maybe they downgraded their shoe selection because people do exactly what you tried to do?

and really, the selection isnt that bad. TC, muira VS, ponta 2s, kintaros to name a few. Yeah it isnt a massive selection, but they have alot more to carry than just climbing crap. If you wanted to look at more models you could have taken your entitled self across the street to wildyX. but then again you couldnt have returned your 3 year old blown up shoes there.


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By redlude97
Apr 4, 2012

They carry shoes that people who come into their store to buy. They stopped carrying laced miuras but carry the velcro's now because that is what people want. They carry the solutions and mythos which are some of LS's most popular shoes. I don't know where you came to that conclusion based on a single shoe that they stopped carrying


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By squiddo
From Mountain View, CA
Apr 4, 2012
A fine day at Reeds- Ejesta!

3 years, resole, really? Wow thats pushing it but power to you for trying. They have the Miura velcro's...great shoe but not the same I know (I have both)


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By John Maguire
From Boulder, CO
Apr 4, 2012
Bastille Crack Final Pitch

@OP - You are 3 days late on this post. Still awesome though.


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By S Denny
From Carbondale, CO
Apr 4, 2012

Rob Gordon wrote:
you are taking advantage of a retailer that goes above and beyond what they should be expected to do.


hahahaha... yeah, REI really goes above and beyond....


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By Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
Apr 4, 2012
Tough Mantle Problem.  Haven't sent yet...

Any company that has a return policy like theirs, gives you money back, and holds good yearly sales is alright in my book. People are usually friendly there too. Do they carry everything we climbers would like them to? No, but they carry a lot more than any other national chain. Don't be an elitist.


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By Josh Olson
From madison, wisconsin
Apr 4, 2012
Looking at a 5.7 crack with Nick

So...you got the shoes you wanted, returned 3 year old resoled pieces of garbage FOR THE PRICE YOU PAID, and you aren't 100% satisfied?

Wow.

On top of that, you are complaining about your selection? You live in Colorado. There are TONS of local stores with fantastic and ridiculous selections.


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By Kurt Swanson
From Philadelphia, PA
Apr 4, 2012
View from the Jane Spy belay station

This is brilliant trolling right here...very well composed, believable too. I almost fell for it, too!


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By MIYG
From Moab, UT
Apr 4, 2012
Photo

Kyle B. wrote:
Well I bought a pair of the La Sportiva Miura's almost 3 years ago and have had them resoled as needed. Well I went into REI with my diviend and 3 year old shoes and returned them to exchange with the same pair.


Thank you for re-uppin my most-boulderites-are-douchbags verbal armory.
This should get me through the spring.


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By "H"
From Garden of Gods
Apr 4, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun

So many great posts, don't really need to respond! I do agree they do not have the best shoe selection or cams. But everything else is pretty damn good. I returned my Five Finger shoes after almost a year of trail running on them as I busted both my little toes. They took them back minus the DIVIDEND I already received. Traded them for some other stuff. I spoke to them last week as I returned a fleece jacket my son wore once-- they took that back to!-- They want their customers to be satisfied with the product they bought. 3 yrs and a resole, come on you've got nothing to complain about.


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By Alicia Sokolowski
From Brooklyn, NY
Apr 4, 2012
Hanging out waiting for Die Antwoord to come on stage

Ryan Williams wrote:
This is a case of abuse, plain and simple. It is because of things like this that companies are starting to cut back on their generous return policies.


+1, spot on. OP, You should have been too ashamed of yourself to post this.


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By Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
Apr 4, 2012
Tough Mantle Problem.  Haven't sent yet...

As a side note, I really needed new shoes a month ago, but didn't have any money for some (not even enough to drive to the 5.10 factory and buy them wholesale). I went to REI. They didn't have 5.10s like I like, but they did have a pair of Pontas on close out for a pretty decent price. They were a half size too big and not what I wanted exactly, but they work.

REI let me return a two year old headlamp still in its original packaging with no receipt or proof of purchase. I also had some gift cards from people who would never know where to buy me a climbing related gift card if it wasn't for REI.

Buy the time all was said and done, I got new shoes for 8 bucks. Thanks REI for being cool.


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By Kyle B.
From Eldorado Springs
Apr 4, 2012

For the record, one, they didn't complain once or make a single fuss about the returned shoes and were stoked that I was returning them. Therefore, I dont feel that I have abused their return policy in any way shape or form. AND, I had to pay full price. There was no return money involved. I bought those shoes for full price and had to pay full price to special order them. And for those that think I'm a tool for returning old shoes instead of buying brand new ones every time, then you need to get out of your trustafarian little bubble sometime. I'd say 3 years and 3 resoles is a DAMN good use of rock shoes, If I had it my way, they would have been resoled and I never would've returned them to REI.


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By Peter Franzen
Administrator
From Phoenix, AZ
Apr 4, 2012
Belay

Just because people follow the common steps of:

1. Getting a job
2. Working at said job
3. Getting paid for #2
4. Purchasing non-durable goods with their earnings

...does not imply that they should be lumped in under the trustafarian label.

You seem to feel that you're entitled to free climbing gear for life now that you've paid for it once. That's not how it works.


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By Kai Huang
From Thornton, CO
Apr 4, 2012

Kyle B. wrote:
I'd say 3 years and 3 resoles is a DAMN good use of rock shoes, If I had it my way, they would have been resoled and I never would've returned them to REI.



Yes, 3 years and 3 resoles is a DAMN good use of rock shoes.

Time to buy a new pair and not return/exchange for another pair to be used for 3 more years and 3 more resoles.


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