Weekly is speaking now- he's questioning council about whether they can legally vote against this thing. Council is concerned that there's no hard evidence- my further thought on this is that council should get off his ass and do some research- seeing as that's his damn job.

Weekly is very concerned- he wants to vote against, but he's unsure of the legal ramifications.

Scow is up next. She's starting with the good faith concern. Let's see where this goes....

Unfortunate that she's only one voice. The rest seem too timid to put up a fight.

Okay- vote is coming up. My guess is they'll vote for, with Guinchigliani and maybe Weekly voting against. Scow and Brown are on the fence, but scared of the courts. Brager, Sisolak, and Collins will vote for.

We need an attorney in Nevada to help us gather evidence to fight this in court to submit to the County Attorney. Spread the word.

What's going on...?

Vote to approve conceptual plan- APPROVED 5-2

more detail on result later...but they are limiting density and height, and mandating blm access prior to approval (this may be the death knell for this project- the county won't condone it and the blm may not approve without county support!)

Sorry for the delay- they went round and round for an hour on density issues.

Any chance the access fund could provide legal assistance?

Also, should we now shift our focus to the BLM, putting pressure on them to decline land swaps as specified in the plan?

John, Doug, et al: thank you so much for the reporting!

We really need a lawyer that communicates with the commission members- I think the DA they are listening to is completely skewed for the development.

Take a look at this article from last year - the observation that
Assistant DA Warhola does not seem quite on the level is not a new one.


www.lasvegascitylife.com/articles/2010/04/29/news/local_news>>>

Jim Rhodes influence on the commission runs deep.

Note here how convicted former Clark County Commissioner Erin Kenny was hired by Jim Rhodes as a consultant

www.lvrj.com/news/8242852.html

I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but it really does seem like there are some back room dealings going on.

Warhola pretty much said that there are no arguments in "good faith" against this conceptual proposal.

I've found that a good lawyer can make arguments for both sides of an issue, he doesn't even try to make valid points against this conceptual plan.

Many good points were made today by the public and completely ignored by the commissioners.

If you read the clark county development code you can make a pretty clear case against any zoning other than it's current status of 1 home per 2 acres is not appropriate. Rhodes plan calls for 5 times that much density.

Nooooooo! Sorry been out of it for while. This is BS.

I'm not a conspiracy type person either, but if you read his proposal there are parts where it almost sounds like he is reminding them that he has done something for them or is holding something over their heads. It really sounds like he is reminding them that it has been predetermined that they are going to approve it.

The work/live/play city proposed all based around education made me think of this.....watch it to the end to hear the best line:

video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=rodney%20dangerfield%20b>>>

If this project ever comes to fruition, I'm done living in this POS city.

We've already contacted the Access Fund and the amazing folks there are on the case, assisting us with multiple approaches going forward. After the council meeting this week, it is apparent that going forward we'll need a more coordinated approach and we'll definitely need legal advice after watching the Deputy DA in action.

We're optimistic, but this is going to take more than just uproar from the community- its going to take some real, dedicated research and work. The good news is that community members came forward this week- those with the expertise and ability to help us get legal evidence to oppose this project.

We'll keep folks posted as we move forward!

Here is a short string of emails I had with Rob Warhola.

P.S. - Brandon you are a tru sally. I feel bad for anyone who would share a rope with someone who has a quitting attitude like yours. Move to Boulder.



Chad Umbel 5:44pm Aug 17
You should be ashamed of yourself Rob. Shame shame shame shame on you man. How you sleep at night is besides me. Way to do the right thing today.


-Chad Umbel
chad@dragonsafetysystems.com
(702) 526-2093

Rob Warhola
Apparently, you only believe in the Constitution when it suits your purpose. Personally, I was appalled when Ms. Linda Schmidt said "The land belongs to all of us." You probably cheered. Private property belongs to all of us? Really. And you say I should be ashamed?
Conversation History

From: chadumbel_151@hotmail.com
To: m+82pbj3u000000qy9gub002nxqodz6k01ut@reply.facebook.com
Subject: RE: New messages from Rob Warhola
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:35:51 +0000

And you sir have me mistaken. I don't believe that he shouldn't be able to build on his land. I think he should build what he bought, which is 1 house per 2 acres. Not some 7,000 plus home master plan mess. Have you ever been out to blue diamond and sat up on cross mountain at night and looked out over the darkness and stars? With a hospital, soccer fields, in and out burgers, and god knows how much other light from how many other places, I couldn't even imagine how grotesque it could be. Are you actually gonna sit there and try and tell me you think you can put eco friendly lighting on a soccer field? So yes, I do believe he should be able to build a small community. It is his land and I don't think it would be right to tell him he can't build on the land that he bought in the parcels he bought it in. You don't think that is fair? And yesterday you have the AUDACITY to SIT up there and say that there is no proof that it will harm Red Rock?? Is air pollution not proved to be harmful yet in 2011? It already seeps into the canyon on most days from the city far below. Could you imagine how bad it would be once this is underway? How about the light pollution harming all the nocturnal species in the desert night? Or the trampling of cholla and countless other plants and desert habitat that is so fragile to our impact? So You still think I should be ashamed? With all due respect Mr. Warholla, I don't know how such an intelligent man could be so clueless on something so obvious.


Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:59:28 -0700
To: chadumbel_151@hotmail.com
From: notification+ijd-1_h_@facebookmail.com
Subject: New messages from Rob Warhola

Well written Chad. I'm really curious to get a real attorney's opinion on this, Warhola's actions almost seem criminal to me.

That was an interesting read, Chad. That reminds me of why I moved away from Las Vegas. Most people making decisions there would murder their own children to put a dollar in their pocket.

Brandontru, I hope what you wrote was tongue-in-cheek. If it wasn't, then shame on you. You are part of the problem with the valley, and part of the reason it is destined to collapse.

To the Oxygen Thief:

"[]what you've just said....is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to ANYTHING that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"

I summarily present you with the Ellesworth Toohey Award for Collectivist Uselessness, which consists of a tall glass of chihuahua piss. Drink up-you've earned it.

I tip my hat to Chad for being rightly indignant and speaking his mind while others lurk or mumble incoherencies. Doug, I feel you on the moving issue. I love Red Rock like the wind loves the dirt, but further urbanizing the area benefits no one with long-term attachment plans for this city. Check out North Carolina-back East the citizens still have a voice in developments that impact wilderness areas. Food for thought...

you know what would be awesome? if we could keep this forum clear of crap so those who want to know whats going on and how to get involved dont have to wade through a bunch of crap to find out.

thanks.