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Reasoning With The Unreasonable 

YDS: 5.11a French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 120'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11a French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: Tyler Phillips,Luke Douglas
New Route: Yes
Season: Spring and Fall
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Submitted By: Luke Douglas on Nov 14, 2007

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A little prize I gave myself on Reasoning With The...


You will run into the business end of this climb at 2/3rds height, however several cruxy sections will already be behind you. Cool roof moves over and over. A wild climb!


Located to the right of No recess. Bring a 70m or 2 ropes to get down. See photo topo.


Bolts to a bolted anchor.

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By glen kaplan
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Nov 14, 2007

that must have been unreasonable for two obviously reasonable fellows like yourselves
By Mark D Evans
From: Sandy, UT
Jul 28, 2008

I pulled off a pretty hefty sized rock on this today. Nearly took out my belay. It was pretty scary to say the least.

I would suggest all climbers wear a helmet in this area due to a little loose rock, and the occasional brief case stones. Great Route for sure!!! But tread lightly.
By BobGray
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
May 20, 2012
rating: 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c

Mighty hefty for 5.11a, was pretty happy to get the red point on this one finally.
By Josiah Cooper
Feb 26, 2015

How many bolts?
By kameron
Apr 6, 2015

There are 14 bolts plus chains(16 draws total). I ended up extending 3,4,7,and 8 to reduce dope drag. Spectacular route, my favorite 11a in the canyon.

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