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Presupposition T 


YDS: 5.11d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 25 British: E5 6a PG13

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 65'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11c French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 24 British: E4 6a [details]
FA: Mike Lechlinski, Terry Ayers, Tom Gilje, Mike Paul & Dan Osman, January 1988
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Submitted By: C Miller on Mar 19, 2007

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Thin cracks/seams lead up the steep face which requires technical movement and the ability to hang out and fiddle in small gear (wires work quite well).

The quality moves, good rock quality and lack of traffic earn this three stars out of five.


Just left of Prejudicial Viewpoint.


Gear to 2.5" with an emphasis on thin gear (small wires handy)

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By Adam Stackhouse
Jun 16, 2008

Free soloed by Micheal Reardon
By caughtinside
From: Oakland CA
Dec 12, 2008
rating: 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a PG13

Excellent! Toproped this. Gear is adequate, but is beyond me for an onsight attempt. Great climbing.
By susan peplow
From: Joshua Tree
Nov 27, 2011

Awkward, tricky and hard. The kind of TR that makes you feel like you're getting stronger...better....overall good workout.
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