Pow! Right in the Kisser 

If you put in the effort to bolt something, at least some effort to clean it. This thing is a huge mess. A thick layer of choss and dirt covers this whole route. There are several large flakes waiting to ruin a belayer's day. Also stainless bolts would have been cool.

Everything out there is choss!! Luscious was very similar in the beginning, it just takes 5-10 years for routes at Malibu to clean up ;-).

I like the bolts.

If you put in the effort to comment, at least [sic] some effort to be accurate. The bolts are 1/2" x 4.75" 5 piece rawl stainless steel plated (equivalent to the best bolts placed in MCSP). A great deal of work went into cleaning. Like every new route in MCSP, there will be residual stuff, but nothing that will endanger a belayer. If you can't handle this, don't climb new routes in Malibu (it's not granite). And cheer up! From the sound of it, the only thing that's going to ruin your belayer's day is you.

Those are good sized bolts. I thought powers made SS and zinc plated bolts, but I didn't know they made a combination of the two.

Jan, you are correct, they are stainless steel, not plated. www.powers.com/pdfs/mechanical/06914.pdf

This route is seriously ridiculous. I'm not going to criticize the FA, because i know a lot of hard work went into cleaning this thing, and its defiantly not good rock.

This is a relevant suggestion for climbers. Do not climb this route. its on the worst rock at Malibu, completely sandbagged, and is very, very dirty. still. Don't let the bolts deceive you like they did me. Don't even try to climb it even just to say you did it. It's not worth the time and cleaning sand out of your eyes as you reach for crumbling holds.

To the FA, the bolts are very deceiving to show that there is a quality route here. You are seriously putting people in danger, and think you should seriously think a lot more before you put up any new routes.

Climbers, do not waste our time, do like 4 laps on luscious if you really wanna climb choss.

What's dangerous about it?

FACT: Timebomb holds are unsafe for belayer and climber.

It's cleaning up alright, give it time and it should be a nice route. Does anyone know when the huge new boulder fell off the bottom? The one that looks like it's about 400 lbs.

The boulder at the bottom came off as part of the initial cleaning before it was bolted. Timebomb holds? Route's been up over a year now with well over 100 ascents and not one handhold has come off (though some potato chip feet have as with any new route in Malibu). But hey, don't climb it. Keeps it open for me.

I thought the route was awesome... even snagged a pretty dope photo off of it. holds seemed fine to me, a bit dusty, but who cares, you're outside. want something crystal clean? pay the $15 for a day pass, but even the holds in there are questionable at times...

The route is still a little dirty but a fun line. Nothing seems like its going to kill the belayer. And hey, it has nice new bolts on it so can't complain to much.

Great route with some interesting moves. I didn't notice any weak holds. Seems to be cleaning up from the earlier posters. If you get off route to the left its a bit chossy, but that's off route anyway. Great bolts and anchor. Thanks go out to the route setter.