Pizza Dick aka Mother Nature 

Yes, this is an excellent _natural_ line, unlike the routes next to it, which were manufactured. Some folks rightly disagreed with the drilling/chiseling ethic. Since this new natural line was right next door to Pete's drilled routes, (as I heard it) Pete said to name it anything except, "Pete's a Dick". The first ascensionist complied, but still got in a good jab by naming his new route "Pizza Dick".

AC: Yes, that makes a bit more sense, and I think that I actually thought that might be the case when I heard the story, but thanks for the clarification.

Yes, AC has the story right. I first called it "It's Not Nice To Fool Mother Nature"- derived from the old margarine commercials, if you're old enough to remember those. Pizza Dick was a name suggested by Christian Griffith as we drove back to boulder after he made the second ascent. It's the name that stuck.

Soft 12c.

I agree with the original 12b rating I gave it.

11d

Sweet line.... V5 start to a pumpy finish.

Really fun! A little soft for the grade. I thought "Moving Out" was harder, but nonetheless, it's way fun.

I did this route on Sunday with friends, and all of us agreed that this was more difficult than 10-Digit Dialing..I read some of the above comments, and I have not been on any of the other routes mentioned above so I would defer to their judgment on the grade..if it is really all that important. The pinch move was baked quite nicely, so maybe we received full value 98 degrees in the sun...maybe we were just stupid for being there in the middle of the summer! I look forward to doing this one again, perhaps in October. Young Doug.

Definitely not soft for the grade if you are taller than 6'- the start is awkward as hell and has a very powerful foot move on it. For munchkins, it probably wouldn't be too bad. From the jugs, it's not too bad but a little pumpy ... actually making it a great warmup/second route of the day if you just pull through the thrutchy start.

Fun route. I think .12c is fair, if you can pull the moves it doesn't seem so bad because it's over quick, but i've watched many strong climbers not be able to link the crux. and of course there's still the rest of the climb to do after that.... regardless, fun climbing and a good in-betweener after the traditional warm ups at primo.

Holy Sh#t!! Fred Knapp is a baller. Need proof? Just check page 148 in the new Clear Creek guide. Here you will see him sandbagging his compadres after pissing on this climb like, 20 years ago! Pizza Dick is the hardest line at Primo area, no question!!

Cool line for the mostly drilled cave. The crux is the start. Fun line and although it is short it some how felt longer than it really was. Maybe I was in the Bermuda-Nomad-Triangle-Cave-Hole-Thing.

Bottom crux is hard, but over quickly, and goes right into a bomb rest. The juice on the this thing really comes at the top. The pump coming out of the open handed ledge is unreal for as short as the climb is. 12b/c Good fun.

One little boulder problem wonder.... Once you stick the jug at the lip near first draw, it's just fighting the pump... but that little boulder problem feels V6 or V7.... So, stiff 12c in my book.

So fun! A right kneepad made the crux move feel easier.