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By John Marsella
From Berthoud, CO
Dec 9, 2013
breathing intensifies*
I moved this out of the MP layout thread b/c it is a different topic.

DoNstamos wrote:
+ 1 George. If I see a that picture of the chick on enter sandman (5.9) one more time I'm going to assault the data base with low quality but shots of the same route over and over. ( nothing wrong with one but shot btw, but why post 10 versions of the same shot?)


Ha! I just looked at this picture set: the funniest part is that the most blurry photo of the 10 got the most "great" votes!

More broadly, this is a slight problem with the database as a whole: certainly everyone wants to share their content and photos, but some (usually more popular) routes have ad infinitum photos of essentially undifferentiable subjects / composition / angles / content. I mean, how many shots-from-the-base-of-a-route do we need for each line?

Another issue is, as in the example by DoNstamos above, move-by-move sets that either a) don't really help or b) give more beta than a user might want-- not to mention they clutter the mobile app picture packages.

My opinion:
  • Cull low-quality photos that have high-quality analogs. [or move them to a "historical photos" section if we are loathe to lose those grainy 320 x 480 pics from the early 2000s]

  • Move "personal" photos over to the user profile [and, in the route's photo upload dialog, have it say something like "does this even need to be here?" like the "off-topic" comments selection box says!].

  • Limit per-user, per-route photo contribution to a nice low number, say 3 or 4. (with the option of a mod override).

While I can appreciate that MP has the possibility / functionality of being a photo-sharing medium to some degree, I think that inundating the database with photos that would be better shared via FaceBook or even in the users' personal photo sections detracts from the efficiency of information delivery.

If I am in the mood for looking at a bunch of reiterations of the same thing, I look at the forums ;)

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By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From The Bubble
Dec 9, 2013
Personal Photo
We will soon add the ability to give every photo a star rating (as you do for routes), and that will give us more capabilities to highlight the better ones, and possibly hide others.

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By Ryan Nevius
From The Range of Light
Dec 9, 2013
Mt. Agassiz
John Marsella wrote:
I think that inundating the database with photos that would be better shared via FaceBook or even in the users' personal photo sections detracts from the efficiency of information delivery.


Amen.

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By Ryan Nevius
From The Range of Light
Dec 9, 2013
Mt. Agassiz
Nick Wilder wrote:
We will soon add the ability to give every photo a star rating (as you do for routes), and that will give us more capabilities to highlight the better ones, and possibly hide others.


Is the current photo rating system (great, good, poor) currently being used for anything? I rate photos as "poor" occasionally in the hopes that they'll disappear or something. I feel that this could be an effective tool for filtering photos (as opposed to the rockclimbing.com-esque stars-everywhere-you-look method).

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By Jake D.
From Northeast
Jan 8, 2014
I feel some people are using it as their own PhotoBucket site.

mountainproject.com/v/10848120...

I tend to browse through the New photos and it sucks scrolling through 4 pages of someone's life photos trying to find some climbing shots. Use Photobucket or Flickr jeesh

seriously?

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By Stone Nude
Jan 8, 2014
When dumb people have disposable income, hilarity ...
Awwww! Kitty!!!!!!!

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By Ima Fred Knot
From Victoria, Seychelles
Jan 8, 2014
Self protrait
I couldn't agree more with John M. Some people love to post way too many needless photos (usually of themselves) on routes or of the same portion of the route from the same perspective. I suspect it is a way to feed their own narcissism or a vain attempt to remain relevant.

Though I confused by Jake's assertion that he is trying to find climbing photos in an album labeled "snap shots of life in Soldotna" (which in reality should be labeled "snap shots of Natallie's lovely rack")
mountainproject.com/v/10848127...
mountainproject.com/v/10850695...
mountainproject.com/v/10850695...
mountainproject.com/v/10850695...
mountainproject.com/v/10851394...
mountainproject.com/v/10851394...
mountainproject.com/v/10856540...

Am I right?

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By Jake D.
From Northeast
Jan 8, 2014
I'm not trying to find climbing shots in their album. But when you just start at the Photos main page and go through the recent uploads full albums like theirs fill up multiple pages.

some middle aged lady with fake boobs. not impressive.

perhaps photos that aren't linked to a route/area should be viewed in peoples profiles only and not on the main photo page. it's a climbing site not stupid ass Instagram etc.

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By Ima Fred Knot
From Victoria, Seychelles
Jan 8, 2014
Self protrait
Jake D. wrote:
perhaps photos that aren't linked to a route/area should be viewed in peoples profiles only and not on the main photo page. it's a climbing site not stupid ass Instagram etc.


Agreed.

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By Stone Nude
Jan 9, 2014
When dumb people have disposable income, hilarity ...
Nothing against Nic and Natalie and their kids and guitars and boobs and what have you, but looking through a bit of that WAS kind of intense. Kind of seemed more like some kind of advertising propaganda than a normal (ish) personal page. Maybe they should get their own blog, post a lot of that stuff on there, and use this site for climbing content?

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By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From The Bubble
Jan 9, 2014
Personal Photo
Jake D. wrote:
perhaps photos that aren't linked to a route/area should be viewed in peoples profiles only and not on the main photo page. it's a climbing site not stupid ass Instagram etc.


I like this idea. Photo-related things are on my To Do list:

  • Add star ratings to photos (like routes).
  • In cases where there are many photos for the same thing (on the site and mobile apps), only display some number of top-rated photo by default (with an option to see them all).
  • In the Photo pages, provide options to view only ones related to a climbing area or route (omitting personal and forum images).

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By Jake D.
From Northeast
Jan 9, 2014
Sounds good Nick. the climbing photos and that they are linked to areas/routes is one of the better parts of the site. having it get watered down with clutter is not a good thing.

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By Kevin Heckeler
From Upstate New York
Jan 10, 2014
Rumney
Jake D. wrote:
I feel some people are using it as their own PhotoBucket site. mountainproject.com/v/10848120... I tend to browse through the New photos and it sucks scrolling through 4 pages of someone's life photos trying to find some climbing shots. Use Photobucket or Flickr jeesh seriously?


Welcome to Earth. Its top tier inhabitants are self absorbed.

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