Perhaps 5.7
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| Type: | Trad, 2 pitches, 210 feet |
| Consensus: | 5.7 [details] |
| FA: | unknown |
| Submitted By: | Andrew Gram on Mar 31, 2004 |
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Peter Gram leading the crux traverse on the first ...
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Description The second pitch of this is absolutely superb - one of the best dihedrals I have ever done. It will be wet when everything else is dry, but it is still reasonable if it is dripping a bit. Find the big easy looking dihedral downhill from the Green Adjective thin crack, and just right of a hard looking sport route. P1: Climb up the dihedral for about 40 feet, and traverse right at a fixed pin. Make sure to protect the second on this traverse - it is a bit thin. Belay at chains around the corner from the pin. 60', 5.7 P2: Climb the long dihedral that traverses right along the bottom of several roofs. This pitch is long, beautiful, and sustained 5.5 or 5.6 The corners of the roofs love to eat the rope and give heinous drag, so try to place a piece at these corners to guide the rope along. It is best to set up a belay if the rope drag gets to be too bad. After about 140' of this, escape right into an easy gully and downclimb 10' or so to the anchors on the Green Adjective. One rope rap leads to the ground from here.
Protection If doing it in 2 pitches and 5.7 is your limit, bring a good sized rack from small to 3 camalot.
BETA PHOTO: Perhaps, Gordon's Hangover, Touch Up
| Look Ma!! No hands.
| Alysha on her first granite route.
| Blitzo on the first pitch. Photo by C. Serniuk, Bl...
| Charleen on the second pitch. Photo by Blitzo.
| Christian Burrell on the first pitch of Perhaps.
| P2 under cling.
| Cleanin' up
| Perhaps
| Perhaps after standing in line.
| Jon and I
| Ben on the Crux on the first pitch
| Ben completing the second pitch
| Chilling after leading both pitches. This is one ...
| P2
| BETA PHOTO: Pitch 2 topo
| Jake Werner on 2nd pitch
| Kevin Brown, Jake Werner...the end of a great rout...
| The lizard gettin it done
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By John J. Glime From: Salt Lake City, UT May 26, 2004
| This is a nice route for the grade, in the canyon, but the downclimbing at the end definitely detracts from the overall quality in my opinion. Fun, good climb... not exceptional. Protect the traverses! |
By Nathan Fisher Aug 4, 2004 rating: 5.7
| This climb was a blast and very different. Up/over/up/over/up/over/down. It did, however, have 2 negatives. First being the 1st pitch inconsistency. One move to get off the ground, followed by a length of relatively easy climbing, followed by a nice traverse to the anchors. Second. The downclimb at the end. Downclimbing in and of itself isn't too bad, however easy scrambling down is bad. Also, watch the swallows, as there still seems to be nests. Oh yeah, don't forget the downclimb, liek I almost did. I am just zipping along, looking at the slab to the north (drooling), and my belayer yells "You're not there yet?" I look down and kinda south and well, there I was. |
By vincent pierce Nov 18, 2004 rating: 5.7
| A really fun route. It's real long but it's such a cruiser that u finish before u know it. The little downclimb wasn't "fun" but it shouldn't stop anyone from doing the route.The book has kept me away from this for a while with its description of nasty rope drag but... if u use slings and protect the corners it isn't bad at all. I saw no need for the optional belay in the middle of pitch 2. |
By kBobby From: Spokane, WA May 31, 2005 rating: 5.7
| This route is great. When I did this a few years ago for the first time, I said to Justin, "That was SPECTANGULAR!" We both laughed. A couple weeks later while we were in Red Rocks, Justin realized that the associated word, RECTACULAR, isn't as appealing. Rope drag isn't too bad if you runner long and choose your placements wisely. It is imperative that you protect the second on the traverse and downclimb. A couple years ago a climber was experiencing heinous rope drag while traversing. He clipped the pin, pulled up a bunch of slack, then fell. The pin pulled and he had a bad ledge fall. |
By Ishmail From: Utah Sep 2, 2005
Gear Alert
| The hanger has sharp edges and if the rope would get caught on one of the two halfs during a fall - the rope could get shredded or worse - cut. Belay off to the right side backing up with a number 2 Camalot. Great Route! |
By d-know From: electric lady land Jan 25, 2006 rating: 5.7
| done in 1 pitch w/70 meter rope adds a little more fun, using some long runners and a little rope strategy. |
By Blitzo Sep 9, 2006
| A fun route. |
By Buff Johnson Sep 20, 2006 rating: 5.7
| Fun, but more traversing than crack climbing, made P2 into 3 pitches to protect the second. |
By mikewhite Oct 27, 2008
| Update The cracked hanger was replaced long ago. |
By Barry52 Dec 9, 2009
| We used to do the 2nd pitch with only three pieces of pro, because of the rope-drag. It's an easy .7, and three pieces allow you to really cruise along the elegant dihedral. |
By zoso Dec 9, 2009
| 3 pieces? Why bother w/the rope? |
By Jon Behrmann From: Herriman Sep 12, 2010
| Donovan's Comments: The crux P1. A nice little smear across a wall with almost nothing to grab or crimp. Gets the blood flowing. Looks nice and easy til you get on there. A fun lead or follow.
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By zoso Sep 12, 2010
| Way to protect your 2nd. Der. |
By cragsavvy From: Salt Lake City Sep 25, 2010
| Great fun climbing! One very awkward, exposed step and the end of the first pitch. From there follow the obvious cracks. There are a few stuck cams, but so far in I wouldn't imagine anyone getting them out. Watch out for birds in the crack, they like it in there! Also, set a belay above the Green A anchors, then scramble down to them. You can TR the Green A from these anchors with a 60 meter rope. A very quality climb well worth doing!!! |
By Boissal From: Small Lake, UT Apr 5, 2011 rating: 5.6
| SPAM! Learn to protect your second, place gear, slab climb and post worthy content. |
By Zac Robinson From: Salt Lake City, UT Apr 7, 2011
| Boissal wrote: Learn to protect your second, place gear, slab climb and post worthy content. I'll give you 3/4 of those. On a good day. |
By Donovan From: West Jordan, Utah Apr 10, 2011
| Dude, that was totally protected up above. I agree it doesn't show it well, but it wasn't filmed so we could put it up on MP. I guess that was an after thought. If we had that in mind we would have shown our gear placement to protect a potential pendulum. I'll see if he will at least edit his description so it mentions it. Thanks for your concern.
| Protection from above. Submitted By: Donovan on Apr 10, 2011
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By oldfart Jul 22, 2011
| Had a little surprise in the initial Perhaps/Gordon's corner this evening. Stepped up in the corner and startled a baby rattler in the crack. Beware - little fella looked like he was digging his spot - and not digging me 2 feet away from him... |
By DrApnea From: Salt Lake City, UT Oct 29, 2011 rating: 5.7
| Watch the rope drag. Can be protected with long draws and medium to large passive gear only if you are interested in doing so. But be sure to protect traverse. There was an article in one of the climbing magazines a few years back about the need to question fixed gear which told of a climber taking a huge pendulum with major spine injuries because of an old fixed piton that pulled out on this route. |
By Aerili From: Salt Lake City, UT Jun 18, 2012
| Incredibly clean and uber classic. The comment about doing it in one pitch with a 70 m rope is spot-on. However, done this way, it didn't feel like a gimme 5.7. |
By Spencer Daniels From: Sandy,utah Feb 15, 2013 rating: 5.7
| Climbed Perhaps 2-14-13 and when i got to the base of the route I took off my pack and almost got drilled by a piece of ice the size of your head. still pretty wet on the second pitch. |
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