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Old Aid Wall aka Upper Echelon Wall

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Dark Pony S 
Dream of Poudre S 
Folsom Flute S 
Girl Problems S 
Moose Knuckles T 
O.D.K. S 
Pinklebear S 
Shoulda Coulda S 
Tailspin S 
Tamed Donkeys S 
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Old Aid Wall aka Upper Echelon Wall  

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This wall faces mostly North; it is on the South side of highway.

Getting There 

Park at the second pullout below the tunnel. Walk about 20 yards down from the pullout; pick your way up through a talus and follow the faint path up to the top of the gully, and to the base of the obvious, streaked, overhanging wall.


A1. Tamed Donkeys, 11+, 1p, 70', bolts.
A2. Moose Knuckles, 12, 1p, 65', gear.
B. O.D.K., 12-, 1p, 85, bolts.
C. Pinklebear, 12, 10', 85', bolts.
D1. Dream of Poudre, 12+, 1p, 90', bolts.
D2. Dark Pony, 13, 1p, bolts.
E. Shoulda Coulda, 10, 1p, 70', bolts.
F. Girl Problems, 9, 1p, bolts.
G. Folsom Flute, 13, 1p, bolts.
H. Tailspin, 12, 1p, 70', bolts.
I. Warm-up Arete, 1p.

Climbing Season

Weather station 7.2 miles from here

10 Total Routes

['4 Stars',5],['3 Stars',2],['2 Stars',2],['1 Star',1],['Bomb',0]

The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for Old Aid Wall aka Upper Echelon Wall:
Shoulda Coulda   5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   
Tamed Donkeys   5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   
O.D.K.   5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a     Sport, 1 pitch, 85'   
Tailspin   5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   
Pinklebear   5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b     Sport, 1 pitch, 85'   
Dream of Poudre   5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b     Sport, 1 pitch, 90'   
Dark Pony   5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c     Sport, 1 pitch, 90'   
Folsom Flute   5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a     Sport, 1 pitch, 85'   
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J. Tarry in the lower section of the route.

Dark Pony 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c  CO : Fort Collins : ... : Old Aid Wall aka Upper Eche...
The climb starts same as Dream of Poudre and follows the first 3 bolts. To start the route properly, scramble up and make the big move from the glued on side pull to the small positive crimp. After clipping the 3rd bolt, make the next big move, switch hands, and start the heinous traverse to the right. At this point, you meet up with the Dark Horse project. Make a few more difficult moves, with a nice dead point, to gain the horizontal ledge and rest. From here, make a couple more b...[more]   Browse More Classics in CO

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By Dusty
From: Fort Collins
Oct 20, 2009
There are a lot of climbs on this wall now, at least 8-10. Does anybody have any information about these climbs?
By Jesse Ryan
Apr 19, 2010
This is the Upper Echelon Wall in the Triple Tier Area as described in Leubben, Cross, and Scott's guide (NCCC's page and the Poudre Route Guide ). Great routes on this wall.

Caution! Most of the routes on this wall will require a 60m rope. Some of the routes in the center of the wall (ODK, Dream of Poudre, etc) may even stretch your 60m.
By Aaron Martinuzzi
May 31, 2010
This crag has some of the the best sport climbing wall in the Poudre Canyon; steep climbs, great movement over some of the cleanest rock I've climbed out here. I'm a huge fan of Crystal Wall, and the climbing here is easily as good as the tough stuff there, but much steeper.
By Sam Berg
From: Wyoming
Mar 28, 2014
Has anyone found a stick clip beneath Dark Pony/Dream of Poudre?
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