By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Boissal wrote: You fail at understanding.
huh!? | 
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By Aimee Bates
Jun 25, 2009
| Boissal wrote: You fail at understanding. If you're projecting a route you're trying it and haven't sent it yet. Every time you give it a go and the route remains a project you've failed at climbing it. So yes, project draws = failure
Not necessarily. Depends on your goal. Ex:If you get on your project with the goal of climbing the first crux clean, that you have not succeeded at previously, and you do..... then that is a personal success. Others may view it as a failure bc they don't know what your goal is. |
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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Aimee Bates wrote: Not necessarily. Depends on your goal. Ex:If you get on your project with the goal of climbing the first crux clean, that you have not succeeded at previously, and you do..... then that is a personal success. Others may view it as a failure bc they don't know what your goal is.
i agree with Aimee.
success/failure is relative to the eyes of the beholder.
its not always about the finish line, Boissal |
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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Jun 25, 2009
| WiledHorse wrote: i agree with Aimee. success/failure is relative to the eyes of the beholder. its not always about the finish line, Boissal
He agrees. Well, he would if he hadn't pushed all conscious thought out of his brain. On the other hand, when he goes home, he won't leave any clothing when behind.
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By grayhghost
Jun 25, 2009
| the area is private land, I don't think steel perma-draws are appropriate
I don't think project draws in Little Cottonwood are a good idea because it is almost completely made up of either wilderness or private land
I am sorry your draws got nabbed, my wallet and phone were stolen from that area last summer |
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By mag
Jun 25, 2009
| Shawn Mitchell wrote: Mag, he didn't miss your sarcasm; you missed his. All the other (sarcastic, hypothetical) activities resulted in left gear because of EDIT: deferred success. So what was wrong with your performance in bed? That one didn't belong in the (sarcastic, hypothetical) list unless you were (sarcastically, hypothetically) saying you can't quite deliver. Get it?
Yes Shawn. Got it. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. All of my example were jokes including the bedroom. One is equally silly as the next including the draws. |
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By Allen Sanderson
Jun 25, 2009
| grayhghost wrote: the area is private land
The above statement is wrong.
Regarding climbs on the northside of LCC Canyon.
The Coffin and environs (Bong Eater, Egg, Crescent Crack, etc) is public land. Everything down canyon from the LDS Church Vaults is public land owned by the Bureau of Reclamation and Forest Service. All of it is managed by the Forest Service who consider any gear left on routes to be abandoned and trash.
For completeness, climbing up canyon from the vaults up to and including the Gate Buttress proper are on land owned by the LDS Church. The Black Peeler environs is owned by Pertetual Storage. Farther up canyon is then again publicly owned land. |
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By Avery N
From Boulder, CO
Jun 25, 2009
| Allen Sanderson wrote: I posted this last fall in a similar thread ... Top 10 Reason why not to leave gear on projects...
Oh, that's a good one. |
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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Shawn Mitchell wrote: He agrees. Well, he would if he hadn't pushed all conscious thought out of his brain. On the other hand, when he goes home, he won't leave any clothing when behind.
how do you know? |
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By Boissal
From UT
Jun 25, 2009
| WiledHorse wrote: its not always about the finish line, Boissal
???
You guys are unreal...
As much as I hate to append **READ CAREFULLY, IRONY MIGHT BE PRESENT IN THE FOLLOWING PIECE OF WRITING** to every post I make, this thread might make it necessary. If you missed this one you'll miss them all. |
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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Jun 25, 2009
| WiledHorse wrote: how do you know?
How do I know he won't leave clothes?
Or how do I know what he's thinking when even he doesn't know what he's thinking, because he's not? |
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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Boissal wrote: ??? You guys are unreal... As much as I hate to append **READ CAREFULLY, IRONY MIGHT BE PRESENT IN THE FOLLOWING PIECE OF WRITING** to every post I make, this thread might make it necessary. If you missed this one you'll miss them all.
huh!? |
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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Shawn Mitchell wrote: How do I know he won't leave clothes? Or how do I know what he's thinking when even he doesn't know what he's thinking, because he's not?
i dont know. |
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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Shawn Mitchell wrote: I'm thinking.
huh!? |
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By Brian in SLC
From Salt Lake City, UT
Jun 25, 2009
| Tom Hore wrote: If you took the four draws that were hanging up on a new project on the wall left of the Coffin could you please A. Hang them back up B. Drop them off at IME C. Just go buy me some new ones. I just bought a new guitar and I don't want to shell out the money to buy four new ones.
Maybe if you cut back on the guitar and train a bit more, you'd send your damn project then we wouldn't have to hear about your weak sauce not being able to send, then gettin' your draws jacked.
Cheers,
-Brian in SLC
(ps: I'll give you some draws if you don't mind old Petzl ones) |
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By Crag Dweller
From Denver, CO
Jun 25, 2009
| Wouldn't it be great to see this thread:
"Draws left on route up by the Coffin. I was climbing near the Coffin and noticed someone left draws on a route up there. I didn't remove them but I wish you would, whoever you are.
The climbing community experiences enough land use/access challenges even when we do 'leave no trace.' Please keep this in mind and remove your draws when you're done for the day." |
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By Shaft
From Salt Lake City
Jun 25, 2009
| Wouldn't it be great to not see idiotic posts like "huh?" posted several times in this thread?
Wouldn't it be great if somebody would just own up to stealing the draws because they didn't like them hanging there? |
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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jun 25, 2009
| Shaft wrote: Wouldn't it be great to not see idiotic posts like "huh?" posted several times in this thread? Wouldn't it be great if somebody would just own up to stealing the draws because they didn't like them hanging there?
now that is funny, Shaft. but i think you are the first one to get the point.
its tempting.... but i will refrain. |
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By Allen Sanderson
Jun 25, 2009
| Brian in SLC wrote: Maybe if you cut back on the guitar and train a bit more, you'd send your damn project then we wouldn't have to hear about your weak sauce not being able to send, then gettin' your draws jacked. Cheers, -Brian in SLC (ps: I'll give you some draws if you don't mind old Petzl ones)
But if you really want to taste some cool success
You better learn to play guitar
....
And you really want to show your scars
Forget all about that macho shit
And learn how to play guitar
Play Guitar
John Mellencamp |
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By Ian F.
From Phx
Jun 25, 2009
| To bad so sad. I am glad that there is someone out there making the point that if you are too lazy to clean up after yourself, your shit will be gone. Keep up the good work. Booty is Booty. If it's on the wall and not attached to rap/belay stations it is booty. Good booty hunting all. maybe soon we can get people to stop bolting everthing around, stop being ego maniacs in search of the next FA on sub elite sport climbs. There are plenty out there use the ones that are exisitning and stop bolting the hell out of every rock wall you find. Off topic, but it seems in most cases this is done for self promotion, and potential sells of guidebooks. Gay. |
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By Toots Krumdick
From Sofa King, CO
Jun 25, 2009
| Leaving draws is lame. Sport climbing is lame. Bouldering is lame. Trad climbing is lame. Everest is lame. Boulder Canyon is lame. LCC is lame. Dogs at crags are lame. Dogs NOT at crags are lame. Ice is lame. Dry tooling is lame. Gym climbing is lame. Obama is lame. Bush is lame. Booty is lame. Boulder is lame. Utah is lame. Aid climbing is lame. Mixed climbing is lame. Thin ropes are lame. Thick ropes are lame. Aliens are lame. Chipping is lame. Bolts are lame. Cali is lame. Rain is lame. Sun is lame. Beef is lame. Rules are lame. Domestic beer is lame. Colorado is lame. Rappelling is lame. Posers are lame. Tricams are lame. $10 camping at Shelf is lame. Alpine is lame. Lame is lame.
I have read all the posts and drawn these conclusions. |
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By sevrdhed
Jun 26, 2009
| Toots Krumdick wrote: Leaving draws is lame. Sport climbing is lame. Bouldering is lame. Trad climbing is lame. Everest is lame. Boulder Canyon is lame. LCC is lame. Dogs at crags are lame. Dogs NOT at crags are lame. Ice is lame. Dry tooling is lame. Gym climbing is lame. Obama is lame. Bush is lame. Booty is lame. Boulder is lame. Utah is lame. Aid climbing is lame. Mixed climbing is lame. Thin ropes are lame. Thick ropes are lame. Aliens are lame. Chipping is lame. Bolts are lame. Cali is lame. Rain is lame. Sun is lame. Beef is lame. Rules are lame. Domestic beer is lame. Colorado is lame. Rappelling is lame. Posers are lame. Tricams are lame. $10 camping at Shelf is lame. Alpine is lame. Lame is lame. I have read all the posts and drawn these conclusions.
While I agree with all of those statements, you know what's not lame? Delicious pancakes. Mmmmm. They're my favorite.
Try putting some corn in your pancakes. I know, it sounds weird, but corn in your pancakes is actually really delicious. |
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