I've heard from a couple friends of mine that live in Utah Country that some ignoramus gymclimberus moronicus has bolted some plastic handholds on a wall right by the main running/biking trail that goes up Provo Canyon. Supposedly it is close to the mouth of the canyon.

They also mentioned that whoever did it also used glue in addition to bolting them/screwing them in and that it's a real eyesore.

Now, Provo Canyon isn't our beloved LCC, but having such an eyesore in an area that gets so much traffic is not going to do much for relations between climbers and the public- seems like the perfect fodder for some misconceived news article about the negative impact of climbers on public areas.

I think the holds should be chopped.

Also I think that we could use the situation to help educate people new to climbing outdoors by taking a photo of the wall before chopping the holds that we could post at gyms like the Quarry, Momentum, etc. along with a PSA explaining why the UT climbing community will not tolerate that kind of behavior in public areas.

What do you all think?

break off the holds and pee on them.

Gluing on holds shrinks your wang!

Sam:

My vote=chop.

The "education plan" is a good idea. I can't think of a better way to thwart the all-too-prolific "ignoramus gymclimberus moronicus".

I live near there and run often on that trail. If I locate the glued holds, they will be gone and cleaned up.

seems common out here.....ego ass holes!!!!!

Currently I live outside Saint George, where chipping, gluing, manufacturing, and FUCKING GLUING ON HOLDS is very common. O did I mention grid bolting!..I've pulled easily 5 fake holds off, and pulled down countless grid bolted P.O.S's I moved here from the east to climb, but the ethics are so fuckin pathetic it makes me sick! There are good people here, but most are wankers who don't know a quality route from a dick in their hand!

This is a sore subject for me and I apologize for my words, but this is how I feel..And the culprits for this should know how a number 5 cam against the face feels!

The St George scene can be amazing and also like Garr said. So many of the crags are accessible to a crowd who'd just as soon paint ball the whole thing. I saw a lot of the same redneck mentality in Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee and its unfortunate.

A whole lot of hearsay and generalization going on here. Does anyone have any real facts, or is this just a chance for people to rant?

Facts! Grab the Sharpend guide book to climbing Southern Utah by Todd Goss.....When you have it I will specifically point out 5 LISTED (2 and 3 star) climbs that have glued holds on, and an entire manufactured wall with 8 routes of chipped and drilled holds!...And the book states it is generally accepted ethics!!! BULL FUCKIN SHIT

This should NEVER be a generally accepted ethic....even the most gymbalicious gumby would agree!

But you can climb all afternoon in a pouring rain at Sandrock. No place like that here in slc. In general, some St George crags are a lot worse than other utah areas - maybe due to their roadside nature, toprope ease or something?

Man I miss the T-Wall this time every year.

I think the OP was talking specifically about plastic holds in Provo canyon, not a request for everyone to rant about every stupid action ever done at climbing area anywhere in the United States. That is a fine discussion, but I am very interested in the original posting.

Does anyone have any actual information about plastic holds being glued on in Provo Canyon? Do we know where they are? has anyone actually seen them? Do we have any clue who put them up?

I found these, they consist of 6 holds, in an 8 square foot area, about 7 feet off the ground.I have no idea how to clean this mess up. Whoever bolted them on also put mucho construction adhesive all around and behind them. I am open to suggestions,but short of removing all of the affected rock,I dont see it as clean-upable.(is that a word?)

Is this cleaned up yet?
If not then I will bring a generator and a grinder and take care of it.
Any idea who it was?

so hot right now

You have got to be kidding me!!! This must be up higher on the unethical act list than chipping holds... Is there a bed of gravel at the base and a water fountain nearby? I really don't know what to think about this.

They wont be there much longer.
Who wants to go clean this up with me?
I dont know where they are so it would be nice to have someone show me the location.
Are they bolted and glued or just glued?

I cant belive nobody has taken care of this by now.

A previous poster said "I found these, they consist of 6 holds, in an 8 square foot area, about 7 feet off the ground." I have not seen these myself, but I would guess this is the work of a boy scout or someone similar and not a serious climber. That paved trail gets hundreds of people along it every week, that spot is not the sort of place a serious climber would go to boulder, and it's not like we are lacking in plenty of real rock here in Utah. It probably isn't a bad idea to clean it up; it will create a bad impression amoung non-climbers using the trail if they see it. Hopefully this sort of thing will not catch on; I have never bought plastic holds but looking in the gear catalogs them seem kind of expensive. If the person who did this finds their $80 in plastic jugs missing maybe they will think twice about doing it again. mikewhite, if you do the clean-up, thanks for the effort. That probably isn't your favorite way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

Whoever did that to the boulder that Joe A posted should be shot! Thats one of the most fucked up things I have ever seen in the climbing world.

The holds on the big sandstone boulder might be a manipulated image, I do not see anything chalked up; someone with photoshop and too much free time on their hands. If someone really did do that to a piece of rock they are pretty messed up.