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Three Doves 

5.8+

   

FA: Dave Ingalls, Al Rubin, Richie Petrowich, 1968
Type: Trad
Consensus: 5.8+ [details]
Length: 2 pitches, 210 feet
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Submitted By: Tabo on Oct 3, 2006


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Tabo leading P1 of Three Doves 5.8+ (Gunks, NY)


Description 

A beautiful three-star route next to Annie Oh!, Arrow, and Limelight.

P1: 80 feet of classic climbing. The guide says to start on either side of large block; the right side seems easier. There is good gear above the block up to a pin. Back up the pin to the left, and make another placement above and a few feet to the right of the pin. Stay right of the pin (there's a lot of misleading chalk out to the left), make a few moves (crux), then follow low angle climbing to the belay. The large tree with slings is used for belay, but I prefer to use tree up and to the right since there's often lots of people rapping through.

P2: 80'. More great climbing! From the tree, follow the path of least resistance to a ledge with a smaller tree ~40 feet up and left. There's not much pro if you go straight up (but it's more fun!); otherwise, head right and then back left for easier terrain and better pro. Nice move just below a pin, then a couple thin moves after the pin to a nice rest. More thin moves up to the roof, and find great gear in the roof. Traverse out right with great feet, then up the diagonal crack to the chains. This pitch wanders a lot - beware of rope drag!

The 2nd pitch has some great moves, one of the nicest pitches at the Gunks.

Rappel: Two 60m ropes gets you within a few feet of the ground (with stretch) - watch the ends. Alternatively, a single rap brings you down to the tree between Three Doves and Annie Oh!, and will keep you out of the way of other climbers. Many rap down the 2nd pitch then climb the 2nd pitch of nearby routes.


Location 

Location: About 14 minutes down the carriage road, the carriage road turns gently right where a river of white rocks meet the road.


Protection 

Standard Gunks rack. Rated PG; several solid 5.8+ moves above fixed pins of uncertain reliability. The pin on P1 can be backed up, the pin on P2 has good gear below but not much else around.



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2nd pitch of Three Doves.  From here, the route breaks left to the trees in the upper left corner, climbs a steep, blank face with the pin, and then traverses back right along the roof.

2nd pitch of Three Doves. From here, the route br...


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By Robert McGibbon
From: Princeton, NJ
May 21, 2009

Bring a #3 for the 2nd pitch.

By slim
Jun 8, 2009
rating: 5.8- PG13

a bit dicey on the second pitch getting to the pin. don't want to blow it here (crux), it wouldn't be pretty.

By Monomaniac
Administrator
From: Morrison, CO
Jun 14, 2009

P.1 is nothin special, but p.2 is excellent, intricate face-climbing on stellar white quartzite.

By Tim Schafstall
From: Newark, DE
Jul 22, 2009

The rock at the Gunks is not quartzite, it's quartz conglomerate.
But it is pretty and white ;-)

By JSH
Administrator
Jul 24, 2009
rating: 5.9

The pin on P2 seems ok to me; it can be backed up with a BD micronut.

P2 is one of those where you have to carefully consider the balance between rope drag, and protecting your 2nd. If you place a piece below the roof and sling it too long, your second will be unprotected at the crux, and will only have one chance at doing it. Doubles help with this.

By AntinJ
Aug 10, 2009
rating: 5.8

A few moves are a little spicy. For me; the one move just before the roof on P2 got my attention the most. I absolutely love this route, a must do for any Gunks climber.

By gblauer
From: Wayne, PA
Aug 16, 2009

P1 was comfortable. P2 had some very thin moves on the smooth white rock. As a second, it was totally fine, not sure how I would feel about leading it. I loved the moves, it's all there, but, I suppose another season will pass before I try to lead this.

By Dana
From: Philadelphia
Oct 16, 2009

Just did this the other day for the first time since 1978. It seemed to be one of the easier 5.8s I have done this year. Ratings are strange.