This is called Nard Gargler. This is not a new route and I can't take credit for this one. Miguel Hoffman Has the FA on this line. Someone should look into educating enthusiastic non locals before they start posting up on Mountain Project.
Someone should look into educating enthusiastic non locals before they start posting up on Mountain Project.
Not to stir the pot but I'll submit that this is exactly a great purpose filled by MountainProject. I've lived here all my life and knew nothing about the history of these obscure, rough problems. For years, I've run past these chalked up boulders and deduced some folks were out playing on these and I'm glad to see the information and history being offered up here. So thanks to Quiter for posting the area and to Beguin (and Miguel) for filling in the information gaps. No one needs to get territorial or accusative here. It's all good stuff.
Someone should look into educating enthusiastic non locals before they start posting up on Mountain Project.
Maybe we could develop some type of hierarchy system that leads up to some "Grand Master" local. All information must be fed through him before it can be viewed by public eyes on MP.
Or, we could just say thanks to people for making an attempt to spread the word about cool problems to try. Then, if they are incorrect in their information, we could politely correct them.
Thanks for the info, Quiter. I am a "non-local" myself, having only been here for seven years, and I have not been down here yet. I look forward to checking it out.
By George Perkins Administrator From: Los Alamos, NM Oct 7, 2008
Guys- chill out. Yeah it sucks to not be able to climb after work any more with the shorter days of October. But you don't need to take it out on each other over who names a 13' V2 on soft tuff.
Scott- want it written up right the first time? Write up your other secret areas before someone else finds a "new" area in one of the canyons around town or up in the Jemez and posts it.
More importantly- Miguel, Scott, Brian, and Jason- for sharing the info and helping to clear up the details on this and other areas in LA, sincerely- THANKS. More people than you think really do check out these areas and appreciate having the info available. I'd like to join you all up in this canyon sometime. Happy climbing! - future "Grand Master" George =)
I feel Scotts' good intentions are being misunderstood here. He knows that between all the beers a fair amount of sweat and blood have been shed in the recent(2+ years) development. the knob goblins eyes are blood in fact! While he may not be a word-smith he means well and is very knowlagable. Thanks George for officiating and excellent administration. PS if these climbs are up to you standards for fun there are LOTS more climbs of comparable quality up and down pueblo canyon and its tributaries, Id be glad to point anyone who cares in the direction of the ones I've encountered. peace.
By Jason Hundhausen From: Los Alamos, NM Oct 14, 2008 rating: V4+
I wasn't going out of my way to make anything more difficult, but I musta been doing something slightly different (there are many contrivances possible) because I feel this is one of the most challenging problems on this boulder - certainly on par with PFVP, if not a bit harder. Fun stuff!
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