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By Derek Jf
From Onset, MA
Aug 1, 2014
A great spring day on Main Cliff,  if I recall
Heard rumors around the fire that the currently-out-of-print 1st & 2nd ed are going for ridiculous numbers online... So I took a look tonight to see what the damage was if you tried to get one and was all like =O

fortunately I have a copy of the Smith guide from when they were easy to get, but I ask, anyone have a little birdie on the in with Ward and know when the 3rd edition is coming out?

Because numbers like this exist on the interweb....


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By Jcomeau
From Hopkinton, MA
Aug 2, 2014
uhhhhhhh You should be able to go into the store and buy one.......... Came out in 2009.

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By Mark NH
Aug 2, 2014
I've heard on neclimbs that it will be next year some time. The common cafe had them for awhile but haven't looked lately. My buddy picked a 2nd edition up basically brand new at his local library for .50 cents! Sold it for a ridiculous price!

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By Derek Jf
From Onset, MA
Aug 4, 2014
A great spring day on Main Cliff,  if I recall
Jcomeau wrote:
uhhhhhhh You should be able to go into the store and buy one.......... Came out in 2009.

uhhh I should be able to.. But I don't need to as stated I have one; and for people that do - they find out it's sold out at retailers both in store and online for the advertised price. This post is just an inquisition to anyone that might have more info....

Mark NH wrote:
I've heard on neclimbs that it will be next year some time. The common cafe had them for awhile but haven't looked lately. My buddy picked a 2nd edition up basically brand new at his local library for .50 cents! Sold it for a ridiculous price!


Thanks for the info. They Common Cafe's been sold out since the beginning of the season... I've been waiting for breakfast there a couple mornings and they get phone calls asking if they have the book - quite frequently it seems. Also - gem find for your friend. How'd he get that price was the lib closing out? That's an awesome pick up!

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By Max Forbes
From Burlington, VT
Aug 4, 2014
This is getting kinda nuts, cheapest price I can find anywhere is 100...

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Aug 4, 2014
Topo - Cliffs in Green
These nutty prices are for the first edition right?

I have two of the second eds at home. . . that would be pretty silly if those were going for $100+

WAIT $600 for a new First edition... WTF???

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By Mike Grobicki
From Andover, MA
Aug 4, 2014
Max, shoot me a message if you're trying to track down a copy.

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By M Sprague
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From New England
Aug 4, 2014
Lichen head. Me, with my usual weatherbeaten, lich...
Let's hope for Ward's sake he kept a case of the first ones to sell on Ebay 15 years later! I have to remember to do that if I ever write a guidebook.

Here is a long thread from neclimbs.com that started in 2007 with people asking how the second edition (the one with Predator on the cover) was coming along. It came out in 2009
neclimbs.com/SMF_2/index.php/t...

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By Ming
Aug 4, 2014
At Railay East Beach in Thailand
Saw plenty of 2nd Edition @ EMS last week.

Also please ask Ward to finally use pictures instead of the drawings that he has been using for the last 2 editions - they have caused many confusions and mini-epics for newbies. My favorite is watching this guy getting on Gold Bug thinking they are getting on Gold Digger. I think he was close to crying at the crux.

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By M Sprague
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From New England
Aug 4, 2014
Lichen head. Me, with my usual weatherbeaten, lich...
Keeps it entertaining at the crag, Ming.

It is really hard to get good overview photos of crags in the east, since most are buried in the trees.


Might be able to get some from the hill across the valley with a good lens on a clear cold late fall day. Jeff's is the best crag overview photo so far of the Main Cliff(with a few small topo errors), but the smaller crags are pretty hidden to show the whole cliff.

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By zswan
Aug 5, 2014
Those prices on amazon.com are usually the result of bots that monitor prices/availability and automatically adjust their market prices. You'll see prices inflate in crazy ways when all the bots get into a 'feedback loop' of sorts, adjusting off each other when there aren't any other sellers.

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By S. Neoh
Aug 5, 2014
For me, well done drawings are clear enough. With photos, you need to add the lines of the routes anyways.
As for the schedule, we all have to be mindful of the kiddie-ference factor.

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By M Sprague
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From New England
Aug 5, 2014
Lichen head. Me, with my usual weatherbeaten, lich...
She'll be old enough to help him with the drawings pretty soon, S. ;)

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By Linnaeus
From New England/ Baltimore
Aug 8, 2014
I picked up a Ward Smith guide at New England Backpacker in Worcester, MA for list price a couple months ago. They had another copy as well. Nice folks and they will reserve it for you if you ask. I also scored a Cannon guide from them (John Sykes, also out of print) before that.

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By GreenRanger
Aug 10, 2014
I have a few new copies of the Ward Smith guide book if anyone is interested.

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By Jeffrey LeCours
From New Hampshire
Aug 11, 2014
Maybe the rest of the Summit will be developed by the time the 3rd edition comes out. The approach from the North West Territories has really been improved over the last couple of years and with the addition of California Chrome and the routes at The Northwest Passage, the Summit should start to come into the lime light. I mean... look at it! It's soooo big and it's for the most part ignored! Karmic Realignment is calling. :P


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By Joe M.
Aug 26, 2014
Selling a new copy of Ward's Rumney guide on Ebay (currently at a reasonable $28!):

Rumney Guide by Ward Smith 2009

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Aug 26, 2014
Topo - Cliffs in Green
Joe M. wrote:
Selling a new copy of Ward's Rumney guide on Ebay (currently at a reasonable $28!): Rumney Guide by Ward Smith 2009


Will you take $400 for it?

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By Joe M.
Aug 26, 2014
Really need to get $450...

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Aug 26, 2014
Topo - Cliffs in Green
Dammit... okay $400 and a litter of kittens? And I'll throw in a snake just in case you don't like kittens (ie snake food).

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By Joe M.
Aug 27, 2014
Maybe I can make millions on a viral video of the snake eating the catz????

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By Raiden
From Royal Oak, MI
Aug 27, 2014
I called EMS and they were able to ship me the guidebook for $30 with free shipping. A couple stores told me they didn't have it so I had them search their system and they found one at a store in CT.

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Aug 27, 2014
Topo - Cliffs in Green
Joe M. wrote:
Maybe I can make millions on a viral video of the snake eating the catz????


OOOOORRRRRR.... cats eating snakes??? I think we're onto something. . .

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By Charlie Shannon
From Denver, CO
Oct 8, 2014
Empire of the Fenceless
Just called EMS, they no longer have the guidebook (either edition) listed in their system.

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By Joe M.
Oct 9, 2014
I just sold my last one on ebay, so that might be the end of them...

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