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Nov 8, 2013
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
There's a shot of Raising Awareness goin now that only shows the climbers legs. I know the photo and that's not it. How much flexibility are you losing with new photo format? s.price
From PS,CO
Joined Dec 1, 2010
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Nov 8, 2013
black Orpheus
Thanks for all the work guys! I like the new look. Seems real nice. Mountainproject is the best climbing site on the web hands down. Royal
From Henderson, NV
Joined Jun 11, 2010
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Nov 8, 2013
Photo by Marisa Fienup.
Thanks for all of the hard work on the redesign as well as on the incorporation of everyone's feedback!

To repeat what others have said, the new Photo of the Moment display is disappointing in a few ways. Horizontal images look tack-sharp and are beautiful at the new, bigger size, but vertical images get cropped in weird ways (sometimes chopping heads off, etc.). In addition, the verticals are enlarged to fill the width of the frame and look soft or pixelated as a result. Could higher-res versions be used? It seems that if the pixel-width of the vertical images was equal to the pixel-width of the frame that they are displayed in, these images would look tack-sharp too.

If given a choice, I'd actually rather see a smaller image that is tack sharp than a larger image that is soft or pixelated.
Matthew Fienup
From Ventura, CA
Joined Feb 18, 2006
7,359 points
Nov 8, 2013
Half dome Cables
dont like it. I love the older homepage WAY better. To much in my face with this Jan Tarculas
From Riverside, Ca
Joined Mar 6, 2010
776 points
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Nov 8, 2013
A Very Not Snowy Christmas...
Looking a bit better... the Spray column is really atrocious though.. formatting/ad placement/font sizes... it's all over the place, barely organized looks like a mess... Lacking in consistency across the various feeds and ads.

The route search tool also seems outta place where it is... would be cool to see the featured route take up that entire box with a link to search for more... Having the route search take up the home page space doesn't make sense to me when a link could get you to same thing. There is no additional benefit/information provided by having it there other then to show the user what a the search box looks like, so if and when they want to search they know what it looks like and that it's on the main page. I'm probably not explaining view well...The feautured route area shows you images, information, ratings, on a route you might not know. The route search tool doesn't show you anything or present any information to you other then here's what a search looks like and now it's on the home page. IDK not sure how to explain it. . .

The other thing is this route finder starts off with a search box and criteria which is totally redundant to the search box in the banner. So you basically have the exact same search in two spots. Doesn't make sense IMO.
Morgan Patterson
Joined Oct 13, 2009
8,417 points
Nov 9, 2013
A small request. I'd enjoy it if the photo captions displayed the area, as well as the route and grade. I like to play "guess the area" from the characteristics of the rock, before reading the caption to find out....

thanks for all your work on the site.
kevin neville
From Somerville, MA
Joined Jun 20, 2013
44 points
Nov 9, 2013
Triple Jeopardy starting from 1/3 of the way up.  ...
Gotta say I hate that the front page photo changes and I can't find the one that was there previously. Bill Czajkowski
From Albuquerque, NM
Joined Oct 6, 2008
26 points
Nov 9, 2013
Alpine toothpick.
I like it, but am I the only one who thinks the slide show pictures change a bit quick??? England
From ?
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281 points
Administrator
Nov 18, 2013
Enjoying 'Ground Affects'.
I dislike the interactive map on the front page. To me this feature is style-over-substance and something I will only use when traveling to a new area. I mostly visit the site for local route beta and news. Hendrixson
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Sep 1, 2007
3,038 points
Nov 18, 2013
not climbing
I miss the arrows for scrolling through the photo of the moment. I'm usually looking on my phone and those little squares are way too small. Mark Roth
From Boulder
Joined Jan 4, 2008
12,560 points
Nov 18, 2013
Carnegiea gigantea
Aesthetic issue. The shadow behind the photographs distracts from the picture content. Cactus Moonshine
Joined Mar 24, 2012
5 points
Nov 18, 2013
not about the home page but for elsewhere on mp, i think it would be awesome if you could scroll though photos using your arrow keys, and not click next photo every time Freddy.Mondale
From Boulder, CO
Joined Apr 29, 2011
57 points
Administrator
Nov 22, 2013
Photo by Marisa Fienup.
I really appreciate the change to the Photo of the Moment feature--no more cropping of vertically formatted images! Thank you!! Matthew Fienup
From Ventura, CA
Joined Feb 18, 2006
7,359 points
Nov 22, 2013
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
what,,,no scrolling ads for Monster energy drinks? Woodchuck ATC
Joined Nov 29, 2007
3,090 points
Site Landlord
Nov 24, 2013
Personal Photo
John Marsella wrote:
Hey Andy et al, Since the implementation of the international ratings setup, the photos on the front page, when they are of a route with a rating, are captioned as such: Route Name ( where it would have previously said Route Name (5.x) ; In addition, onMouseOver, you get something like this: This occurs both in FF and Safari.


Thanks John, got that fixed.
Nick Wilder
From The Bubble
Joined Jan 1, 2005
1,733 points
Nov 27, 2013
re: the new layout, the buttons for viewing page listings for photos (or any other list) for 'next' and 'last' are too close to each other. Its super easy to hit 'last' and I'm doing it way too often. Maybe put 'next' on the left of the #'s? tenesmus
Joined Jan 7, 2004
2,614 points
Nov 27, 2013
desert
Long time lurker here. I came back and saw the new layout, not stoked. But, such is life, change is inevitable. So I had to sign up to ask a question thats most likely been asked/answered on this TR (couldn't find it). Where do I find the recent comments? And can I narrow down which areas I want to see comments from? Thanks for any helpful response. BigNobody
From all over, mostly Utah
Joined Nov 27, 2013
10 points
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Nov 27, 2013
Personal Photo
tenesmus and John Marsella: I agree and increased both the font size and spacing around those links. It will takea while for all instances of them to flush out of our caching system, but here's an example of the new version: nick.mountainproject.com/scrip...

BigNobody: Recent Comments can be found below the Featured Route (middle of the page below the New Forum Posts). Both the Featured Route and all those "New" links can be restricted to your Favorite Areas. There is a link to select them in that same general area of the page (look for the "Change" link).
Nick Wilder
From The Bubble
Joined Jan 1, 2005
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Nov 27, 2013
desert
Wow. I am blind. Thank you Nick. BigNobody
From all over, mostly Utah
Joined Nov 27, 2013
10 points
Dec 8, 2013
After weeks of using the new layout, I have the following complaints:

The homepage slideshow photos, especially the vertically oriented photos, are too small. After zooming in to make those bigger, many end up poorly cropped.

I don't click on a photo until after seeing all of a given set of eight, because I haven't found a way to get back to that set. Perhaps that shouldn't be a problem -- photos are repeated over and over again -- so I may be able to again see what I miss when I click on another photo.

Speaking of repeated photos: A different algorithm should be used for selecting slideshow photos. Most slideshow photos are repeated ad infinitum. I've seen some hundreds of times. I suspect that the contributors of those photos are merely stuffing the ballot box. The database contains thousands of suitable photos that have rarely or never been seen in the slideshow. Pics should serve two purposes: to be entertaining or informative. Those tiresomely repeated pics serve neither.

Before the redesign, the "Photos of the Moment" were much easier to view and much more diverse, informative and user-friendly.

BTW, the big maps and pie charts are useless space and data wasters.
George Bracksieck
Joined Oct 4, 2008
1,021 points
Dec 8, 2013
Mt. Agassiz
George Bracksieck wrote:
After weeks of using the new layout, I have the following complaints: The homepage slideshow photos, especially the vertically oriented photos, are too small. After zooming in to make those bigger, many end up poorly cropped. I don't click on a photo until after seeing all of a given set of eight, because I haven't found a way to get back to that set. Perhaps that shouldn't be a problem -- photos are repeated over and over again -- so I may be able to again see what I miss when I click on another photo. Speaking of repeated photos: A different algorithm should be used for selecting slideshow photos. Most slideshow photos are repeated ad infinitum. I've seen some hundreds of times. I suspect that the contributors of those photos are merely stuffing the ballot box. The database contains thousands of suitable photos that have rarely or never been seen in the slideshow. Pics should serve two purposes: to be entertaining or informative. Those tiresomely repeated pics serve neither. Before the redesign, the "Photos of the Moment" were much easier to view and much more diverse, informative and user-friendly. BTW, the big maps and pie charts are useless space and data wasters.


Have you been the home page recently? Vertically-oriented photos are no longer cropped in the slideshow...A lot of your other issues aren't really issues either:

Hold down control and click to open a slideshow photo in a new tab (or right click and open in a new tab or window).

If you hover your pointer over the images, you get just as much information as before.

I'm also curious how the ranking "algorithm" works for choosing these photos...
Ryan Nevius
From The Range of Light
Joined Dec 29, 2010
787 points
Dec 8, 2013
Thanks, Ryan: Control and click to open a new tab does "save" a photo while I can go back to the set of eight from which it came. BTW I had been using pointer to hover over the photo to get caption info. George Bracksieck
Joined Oct 4, 2008
1,021 points
Dec 8, 2013
Rifle
+ 1 George. If I see a that picture of the chick on enter sandman (5.9) one more time I'm going to assault the data base with low quality but shots of the same route over and over. ( nothing wrong with one but shot btw, but why post 10 versions of the same shot?) DoNstamos
From Subaru
Joined May 1, 2012
398 points
Dec 8, 2013
Rifle
I would also like to add that Blitzo and Brad G are exempt from my photo database complaints... Lets be honest their pictures are always amazing/inspiring. DoNstamos
From Subaru
Joined May 1, 2012
398 points
Dec 9, 2013
I just discovered the "Open Slideshow" button, the right-pointing arrow, which opens the relatively large full-frame set of eight on a black background. Looks good. And you can still click on a single pic, to enlarge it further or to get more info. George Bracksieck
Joined Oct 4, 2008
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