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By s.price
From PS,CO
Nov 8, 2013
 Morning Dew ,self portrait

There's a shot of Raising Awareness goin now that only shows the climbers legs. I know the photo and that's not it. How much flexibility are you losing with new photo format?


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By Royal
From Henderson, NV
Nov 8, 2013
Free Willy (Salt Point)

Thanks for all the work guys! I like the new look. Seems real nice. Mountainproject is the best climbing site on the web hands down.


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By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From Ventura, CA
Nov 8, 2013
Photo by Marisa Fienup.

Thanks for all of the hard work on the redesign as well as on the incorporation of everyone's feedback!

To repeat what others have said, the new Photo of the Moment display is disappointing in a few ways. Horizontal images look tack-sharp and are beautiful at the new, bigger size, but vertical images get cropped in weird ways (sometimes chopping heads off, etc.). In addition, the verticals are enlarged to fill the width of the frame and look soft or pixelated as a result. Could higher-res versions be used? It seems that if the pixel-width of the vertical images was equal to the pixel-width of the frame that they are displayed in, these images would look tack-sharp too.

If given a choice, I'd actually rather see a smaller image that is tack sharp than a larger image that is soft or pixelated.


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By RNclimber
From Riverside, Ca
Nov 8, 2013
Seconds before onsighting Gun Smoke V3, Joshua Tree bouldering

dont like it. I love the older homepage WAY better. To much in my face with this


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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Nov 8, 2013
Stoked...

Looking a bit better... the Spray column is really atrocious though.. formatting/ad placement/font sizes... it's all over the place, barely organized looks like a mess... Lacking in consistency across the various feeds and ads.

The route search tool also seems outta place where it is... would be cool to see the featured route take up that entire box with a link to search for more... Having the route search take up the home page space doesn't make sense to me when a link could get you to same thing. There is no additional benefit/information provided by having it there other then to show the user what a the search box looks like, so if and when they want to search they know what it looks like and that it's on the main page. I'm probably not explaining view well...The feautured route area shows you images, information, ratings, on a route you might not know. The route search tool doesn't show you anything or present any information to you other then here's what a search looks like and now it's on the home page. IDK not sure how to explain it. . .

The other thing is this route finder starts off with a search box and criteria which is totally redundant to the search box in the banner. So you basically have the exact same search in two spots. Doesn't make sense IMO.


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By kevin neville
From Somerville, MA
Nov 9, 2013

A small request. I'd enjoy it if the photo captions displayed the area, as well as the route and grade. I like to play "guess the area" from the characteristics of the rock, before reading the caption to find out....

thanks for all your work on the site.


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By Bill Czajkowski
From Albuquerque, NM
Nov 9, 2013
Triple Jeopardy starting from 1/3 of the way up.  No good pro except at this stance and after the upcoming slab.

Gotta say I hate that the front page photo changes and I can't find the one that was there previously.


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By England
From ?
Nov 9, 2013
Alpine toothpick.

I like it, but am I the only one who thinks the slide show pictures change a bit quick???


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By Hendrixson
Administrator
From Tucson, AZ
Nov 18, 2013
Enjoying 'Ground Affects'.

I dislike the interactive map on the front page. To me this feature is style-over-substance and something I will only use when traveling to a new area. I mostly visit the site for local route beta and news.


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By Mark Roth
From Boulder
Nov 18, 2013
not climbing

I miss the arrows for scrolling through the photo of the moment. I'm usually looking on my phone and those little squares are way too small.


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By Cactus Moonshine
Nov 18, 2013
Carnegiea gigantea

Aesthetic issue. The shadow behind the photographs distracts from the picture content.


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By Freddy.Mondale
From Boulder, CO
Nov 18, 2013

not about the home page but for elsewhere on mp, i think it would be awesome if you could scroll though photos using your arrow keys, and not click next photo every time


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By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From Ventura, CA
Nov 22, 2013
Photo by Marisa Fienup.

I really appreciate the change to the Photo of the Moment feature--no more cropping of vertically formatted images! Thank you!!


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By Woodchuck ATC
Nov 22, 2013
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008

what,,,no scrolling ads for Monster energy drinks?


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By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From The Bubble
Nov 24, 2013
Personal Photo

John Marsella wrote:
Hey Andy et al, Since the implementation of the international ratings setup, the photos on the front page, when they are of a route with a rating, are captioned as such: Route Name ( where it would have previously said Route Name (5.x) ; In addition, onMouseOver, you get something like this: This occurs both in FF and Safari.


Thanks John, got that fixed.


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By tenesmus
Nov 27, 2013

re: the new layout, the buttons for viewing page listings for photos (or any other list) for 'next' and 'last' are too close to each other. Its super easy to hit 'last' and I'm doing it way too often. Maybe put 'next' on the left of the #'s?


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By BigNobody
From all over, mostly Utah
Nov 27, 2013
desert

Long time lurker here. I came back and saw the new layout, not stoked. But, such is life, change is inevitable. So I had to sign up to ask a question thats most likely been asked/answered on this TR (couldn't find it). Where do I find the recent comments? And can I narrow down which areas I want to see comments from? Thanks for any helpful response.


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By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From The Bubble
Nov 27, 2013
Personal Photo

tenesmus and John Marsella: I agree and increased both the font size and spacing around those links. It will takea while for all instances of them to flush out of our caching system, but here's an example of the new version: nick.mountainproject.com/scripts/WhatsNew.php?what=MESSAGE&m>>>

BigNobody: Recent Comments can be found below the Featured Route (middle of the page below the New Forum Posts). Both the Featured Route and all those "New" links can be restricted to your Favorite Areas. There is a link to select them in that same general area of the page (look for the "Change" link).


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By BigNobody
From all over, mostly Utah
Nov 27, 2013
desert

Wow. I am blind. Thank you Nick.


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By George Bracksieck
Dec 8, 2013

After weeks of using the new layout, I have the following complaints:

The homepage slideshow photos, especially the vertically oriented photos, are too small. After zooming in to make those bigger, many end up poorly cropped.

I don't click on a photo until after seeing all of a given set of eight, because I haven't found a way to get back to that set. Perhaps that shouldn't be a problem -- photos are repeated over and over again -- so I may be able to again see what I miss when I click on another photo.

Speaking of repeated photos: A different algorithm should be used for selecting slideshow photos. Most slideshow photos are repeated ad infinitum. I've seen some hundreds of times. I suspect that the contributors of those photos are merely stuffing the ballot box. The database contains thousands of suitable photos that have rarely or never been seen in the slideshow. Pics should serve two purposes: to be entertaining or informative. Those tiresomely repeated pics serve neither.

Before the redesign, the "Photos of the Moment" were much easier to view and much more diverse, informative and user-friendly.

BTW, the big maps and pie charts are useless space and data wasters.


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By Ryan Nevius
From The Range of Light
Dec 8, 2013
Mt. Agassiz

George Bracksieck wrote:
After weeks of using the new layout, I have the following complaints: The homepage slideshow photos, especially the vertically oriented photos, are too small. After zooming in to make those bigger, many end up poorly cropped. I don't click on a photo until after seeing all of a given set of eight, because I haven't found a way to get back to that set. Perhaps that shouldn't be a problem -- photos are repeated over and over again -- so I may be able to again see what I miss when I click on another photo. Speaking of repeated photos: A different algorithm should be used for selecting slideshow photos. Most slideshow photos are repeated ad infinitum. I've seen some hundreds of times. I suspect that the contributors of those photos are merely stuffing the ballot box. The database contains thousands of suitable photos that have rarely or never been seen in the slideshow. Pics should serve two purposes: to be entertaining or informative. Those tiresomely repeated pics serve neither. Before the redesign, the "Photos of the Moment" were much easier to view and much more diverse, informative and user-friendly. BTW, the big maps and pie charts are useless space and data wasters.


Have you been the home page recently? Vertically-oriented photos are no longer cropped in the slideshow...A lot of your other issues aren't really issues either:

Hold down control and click to open a slideshow photo in a new tab (or right click and open in a new tab or window).

If you hover your pointer over the images, you get just as much information as before.

I'm also curious how the ranking "algorithm" works for choosing these photos...


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By George Bracksieck
Dec 8, 2013

Thanks, Ryan: Control and click to open a new tab does "save" a photo while I can go back to the set of eight from which it came. BTW I had been using pointer to hover over the photo to get caption info.


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By DoNstamos
From SLC/Detroit/Dragons
Dec 8, 2013
legend

+ 1 George. If I see a that picture of the chick on enter sandman (5.9) one more time I'm going to assault the data base with low quality but shots of the same route over and over. ( nothing wrong with one but shot btw, but why post 10 versions of the same shot?)


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By DoNstamos
From SLC/Detroit/Dragons
Dec 8, 2013
legend

I would also like to add that Blitzo and Brad G are exempt from my photo database complaints... Lets be honest their pictures are always amazing/inspiring.


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By George Bracksieck
Dec 9, 2013

I just discovered the "Open Slideshow" button, the right-pointing arrow, which opens the relatively large full-frame set of eight on a black background. Looks good. And you can still click on a single pic, to enlarge it further or to get more info.


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