The lobe attachment to the trigger in the closeup of the red cam on page 2 appear to be wires, the typical BD construction. However, the blue cam in the picture above appears to have a kevlar (or whatever that material is) coming from the lobe to the trigger assembly. Anyone else notice this? It's not a great picture, and I could be wrong, but if I'm not, and there are wires in one, and the non-metal on the other, it does raise some questions.

Looks like their traditional double axle in that picture.

It is my understanding that at a certain small size they no longer have enough room to put the axles side by side. They may have rectified it by stacking (offset maybe) the axles.

PT

The wires being shorter on the BD cam should be an advantage, not a disadvantage, for the reason Will S points out. The distance from the lobes of the cam to the trigger is going to affect how easily you can place them deep -- not the length of the trigger wires.

Having shorter wires like that could have an advantage though, if you've ever seen a deep horizontal placement of a mastercam where the wires run over an edge and when loaded it self-retracts lobes, causing the cam to fall out...well that probably wouldn't be likely to happen with shorter wires.

i completely agree with that but i think my explanation was not clear enough. chris mac explains exactly what i meant in this video at about 1 minute in. not the total length from the lobes to the trigger but from the lobes to that first chunky piece on the stem. but who really knows until we can use them.

looks kinda like a cross between a master cam and an alien.

If this is at the OR show it might be over a year before you see them in stores.

Looks sweet but I don't see a reason to go out and buy another set of cams.

They are expected to be released next Fall. It is BD so it could be a longer than that as well.

Fuel for the conspiracy-minded gear whores like me, which I just posted to ST:

Huh. Did a bit of digging just now, and that excentric-bearing cam patent (US6042069) was filed by Tony Christianson in 1998. He had previously filed another patent (US4643377) in 1985, which looks surprisingly like the original patent on the U-stem Camalot. I've not seen him named in later BD patents, but seems there might be a relationship there from the dual axle thing and the eccentric-bearing cam thing certainly fits the sound of the stacked axle thing.

Just enough of a connection there to make me really wonder if I've stumbled upon something....

Images from the Eccentric bearing cam patent:

Even though if they are only going into a red c3 size I am disappoint, but still want.

Lord the twisted "perspective" and isometeric views in patient drawings always burn my eyeballs.

But don't the yellow C3 and the blue C4 cover virtually the same size range?

Doesn't look like they bring much new to the small cam market. Bummer. Still look like a good cam, though.

according to outside, available spring 2013 and $70.

camalot x4 Submitted By: Some Random Guy on Jul 14, 2012

camalot x4 Submitted By: Some Random Guy on Jul 14, 2012

Looks to me like stacked axle thing is quite similar to what was done on the eccentric bearing thing I posted up thread.... Axis of rotation for opposing lobes are shifted away from each other by eccentrics on the axle.

"Doesn't look like they bring much new to the small cam market."

bd is touting an increase in range of 20%. i agree with will s, that's a huge benefit especially for the smallest sizes.

I dunno, Randome Guy.... Sounds like the "best in class" marketing hype used for cars. Sure, 20% is an impressive sounding number, but 20% more than *what*? If they're talking 20% more than Mastercams, color me less than impressed as Metolius uses a much more conservative cam angle (which gives less range) than BD and that alone will account for a goodly portion of the 20% increase.

Now, 20% more than Aliens... Yeah. That would be impressive but I doubt that's the case.