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Never Never Land 

YDS: 5.10a French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ British: E1 5a

   
Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 80'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10- French: 6a Ewbanks: 18 UIAA: VI+ British: E1 5a [details]
FA: Art Gran, Dave Craft, Jim McCarthy, 1959. FFA: Jim McCarthy, George Hurley, 1964
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Submitted By: Guy H. on Feb 21, 2006
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Description 

This route is a highlight, at 5.10a, among the pure face-climbing routes at the Gunks. There are a couple fixed pieces of gear, but the majority of the gear is trad.

The Never Never Land access trail is about a 12-min. walk from the Uberfall, or an 8-min. walk from where the East Trapps Connector Trail meets the carriage road.

Start 30' left of Absurdland at the low point of the cliff, at a polished face with a bolt 25' up.

P1: Place a small piece in the horizontal, or have a spotter. Follow the seam with thin gear to the first fixed piece. Continue on thin face climbing, which is sometimes reachy. A piton is passed on the way to the headwall. The original route goes right, but the straight-up version is recommended and goes at about the same difficulty. An exciting lead for 5.10a!

Rap with one rope from 2 bolts on the ledge above.


Protection 

Standard Rack, extra thin gear.



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Wow..... <br />That's all I can say
Wow.....
That's all I can say
The only bolt is up and right 10ft...
The only bolt is up and right 10ft...
Jeff Arliss on the lower section.
Jeff Arliss on the lower section.
Slabby fun
Slabby fun
Nearing the top.
Nearing the top.
At the crux
At the crux
Never Never Land: Nice slab climbing.
Never Never Land: Nice slab climbing.
Onsighting Never Never Land.
Onsighting Never Never Land.
Todd Swain making the long crux reach.
Todd Swain making the long crux reach.
butt shot at the crux
butt shot at the crux
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By gilp
Sep 27, 2006

awesome climb. seems improbable that feet will work in the crux section, but they will. crux well protected and the upper section backs off to 5.8 or so.

By Cory B
Oct 12, 2008

awesome route! Two bolts, a piton, light thoughts and trust in your feet get you through this route.

I actually thought coronary was easier though...is 10a correct?

By David Stowe
Oct 12, 2008

I think that you mean two pitons and one bolt. There has never been more than one bolt. It is not harder than 10a. If you tried going straight up from the bolt to the piton at the crux section then you will have found it harder. If you angled slightly left after the bolt then you will find it a bit easier as the holds are better. Fun climb, especially if you do the direct finish and don't move right up the easy groove.

By vanishing spy
Apr 19, 2010
rating: 5.10 6b 20 VII- E2 5b

Get on this one before the feet get anymore glassy.

By Dan Wachlaczenko
Dec 9, 2010

That was my first 10 at Gunx.

By lucander
From: Stone Ridge, NY
Jan 9, 2012
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ E1 5a

This was my first 5.10 onsight and my 100th route in the Gunks, one of my all-time favorite climbs at this this crag. I've climbed this at least 20 times since, and I've never fallen - and never felt secure on the move above the bolt to the horizontal. Look out for the last move too, it feels 5.9 and protection is below your feet until you clip the final piton.

By Nick Weinberg
From: Essex, NY
Apr 26, 2013

One of my favorite routes at the gunks. Opposed RP's on the first horizontal may keep you off the ground.....

By Indigo Dragon
From: Fairfield, CT
Sep 8, 2013
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ E1 5a

Last section after the big horizontal is run out and the climbing is continuously hard and thin. Back up the horizontal with a #2 and #3 because the fall would be big. Awesome scary face climbing.