anyone else ever try the seam/crack/face that goes up and left from the start of pitch 4? this totally bypasses the roof and fires straight up. I remember the first time climbing frogland I seconded this pitch and remember considerable rope drag around the roof.( i'm sure a long runner would have helped) the second time I did this route I led this pitch and opted to take the left face. I recall it was thin but took small gear well(I think I used some opposing pieces to secure the placements) anyway, i'm guessing it was 9ish...?anyone else have some feedback/consensus? thank you!

I've always gone that way. I'd say 5.7 or so myself.

Yeah, I thought the crack near the skyline was the normal way. This is the way we went, hardest part is right at the top of that crack.