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By matvey
May 1, 2014
Selfie @ Indian Cove
What are some good spots? Any guide recommendations? This is for a group of 4-8 ppl, most of whom are complete beginners (my wife and I have been climbing indoors for a couple years now, but haven't don it outdoors yet).

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
May 1, 2014
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"Near L.A."


JTree is near L.A. to a lot of people. It's also highly recommended as a destination.

There are numerous guide services in the area.

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By dinosore
From Long Beach, CA
May 1, 2014
The Fang Extension V5 @ Horse Flats
Locker wrote:
"Near L.A." JTree is near L.A. to a lot of people. It's also highly recommended as a destination. There are numerous guide services in the area.


I second this opinion. Jtree has been my gym for a few years now and is only 2 hours away. Never done the guide thing but I've seen them out there. Otherwise there might be some guided type things going on around Malibu creek if your looking for something closer to home. I don't have any contacts for those, like I said never done the guide thing. Good luck!

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By Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
May 1, 2014
Big Boulder, just a bit downhill from Temple of Kali. Alabama Hills, CA.
"Any guide recommendations?"

are you looking for a book?

Or a teacher?

sort of unclear.

why dont you go to one of the many GYMs in LA?

(my wife and I have been climbing indoors for a couple years now, but haven't don it outdoors yet)

why take a whole group out????

you and wife could learn a whole lot more without "the group" hanging around

Jus saying

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By RNclimber
From Riverside, Ca
May 1, 2014
Seconds before onsighting Gun Smoke V3, Joshua Tree bouldering
theclimbinglifeguides.com/

He is a personal friend of mine and partner. He is the strongest and most knowledgable person I personally know when it comes to climbing and safety. Give him a call.

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By drewp
May 1, 2014
This is what I look like
Malibu Creek is basically an outdoor gym. Start at stumbling blocks or Planet of the Apes wall.

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By matvey
May 10, 2014
Selfie @ Indian Cove
Guy: sorry, I wasn't clear, we are looking for a person to help us out and show us the basics. Two reasons to take the whole group: it's a group trip (and climbing is just one part of it) and it's more fun to stick together, plus it's cheaper for us if more people come.

Thanks for the recommendations, guys! Joshua Tree looks awesome, and it's about the same distance away from where we'll be as Malibu Creek. I'm leaning towards JTree, but does anyone else think otherwise?

Just curious, how did all of you learn how to set up top rope, how to do sport & trad climbing, etc.? Is it mostly through friends, or did more of you sign up for guided tours, instructors, classes, etc?

And then after that initial step, did y'all go straight to buying all the gear, or did you rent/borrow for a while at first? So far we only own shoes.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
May 11, 2014
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Now I'm thinking this thread is a TROLL job.

"And then after that initial step, did y'all go straight to buying all the gear, or did you rent/borrow for a while at first? So far we only own shoes."

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By mark felber
From Wheat Ridge, CO
May 11, 2014
Learning through friends is very common. Once you've mastered the basics (knots, belaying) an awful lot of people go out and work things out on their own. Not the fastest or safest way to learn, but it does encourage a certain level of self-reliance and problem solving ability. If you can afford it, a mixture of sessions with a guide and time on your own with a reliable partner(s) should help you progress.

Definitely get at least a harness, belay device and locking carabiner to go with your shoes. If you stay with this game renting will get time consuming and expensive. If not, there's always eBay or the local consignment store/thrift store to get rid of them. If you have friends who own equipment and are willing/able to take you out you can take a more gradual approach to buying all the other stuff. Otherwise there will come a point where you just have to bite the bullet and buy a whole bunch of shiny new toys.

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By Medic741
From Pittsford, New York
May 11, 2014
When I was a bum at Frey
Does it get too hot in the summers to climb?

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By RNclimber
From Riverside, Ca
May 11, 2014
Seconds before onsighting Gun Smoke V3, Joshua Tree bouldering
Medic741 wrote:
Does it get too hot in the summers to climb?


I climb all year long in southern california. holcomb valley, suicide, and tahquitz are around 7-8K elevation. Chase shade in malibu creek or climb early morning at the quarry during summer mornings or night sessions can be done. There's plenty of other little crags around here but aren't world destinations. People do climb in jtree during summer too and just chase shade

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By matvey
May 11, 2014
Selfie @ Indian Cove
mark & RNclimber -- thanks for the info & advice.

Locker: how exactly is this thread a "TROLL job"?

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By jeff lebowski
May 11, 2014
It's just confusing for those of us born in civil war times how someone can be climbing for several years and not know how to set anchors or even own a harness.

It's a brave new world out there. Next thing you'll be telling me is that you've seen a woman's ankles in public or someone shot President McKinley.

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By RNclimber
From Riverside, Ca
May 11, 2014
Seconds before onsighting Gun Smoke V3, Joshua Tree bouldering
jeff lebowski wrote:
It's just confusing for those of us born in civil war times how someone can be climbing for several years and not know how to set anchors or even own a harness. It's a brave new world out there. Next thing you'll be telling me is that you've seen a woman's ankles in public or someone shot President McKinley.


I know people that climb at the gym and deathly afraid of climbing outside on a rope and they've been climbing for at least 4-5 years crushing it at pretty hard on gym boulder problems.

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By Fat Dad
From Los Angeles, CA
May 12, 2014
matvey,

I can understand why Locker thought this might be a troll. The way that many folks get into climbing these days (through gyms) is so fundamentally different than how many of us long time climbers got into it that it can be hard to understand the disconnect between climbing inside vs. out. My first day of climbing involved not only climbing, but actually learning about anchors, setting them up and using them. Like some mentioned in this thread, some folks climbing inside (and get really good) but never use these skills. To each his own.

In any event, in terms of your recommendation, I think you need to ask yourself what you really want to accomplish. Do you just want someone to set up some ropes and belay you and your friends, or do you want someone to actually show you gear placement, how to build safe anchors, etc.? With a small group, if would be pretty easy to do the latter. With a big group, you'll probably be stuck with the former.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
May 12, 2014
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"matvey,

I can understand why Locker thought this might be a troll. The way that many folks get into climbing these days (through gyms) is so fundamentally different than how many of us long time climbers got into it that it can be hard to understand the disconnect between climbing inside vs. out."



Wow!

I actually think you're right. Fucking A I have fucking turned into a fucked up OLD FART! How the hell did this happen?



Dude is right on with the "Disconnect" comment.

My apologies if this is not a TROLL.





If you need someone to "Show you the ropes" and set up a TR for your group, email me and I'll take on the task.

You ask: "But do you KNOW what you're doing?"

Well...

I know how to belay...

Proper technique
Proper technique

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By Tug
May 12, 2014
Just watch out for the occational acid flashback.

Hire Seth at Cliffhanger Guides. Based out of JTree. Experienced and safe.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
May 12, 2014
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Not to worry!

I have "Guided" professionally and anyway,

It's true!
It's true!

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By Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
May 12, 2014
Big Boulder, just a bit downhill from Temple of Kali. Alabama Hills, CA.
LOCKER is a true gentleman/guide/buddy/rockclimber.

MATVEY.... way back in the day. We all just picked up Royals Book... Basic Rockcraft and went to the stone. It was the way.

Today, a guide can show you the same thing. The point I was trying to make was this: You will get most bang for your buck if a Guide works with you, not 5 or 6 others. You learn the simple tools need to do this sport safely and then pass on your skills to the others.

You might wish to go to the Apes wall at Malibu.... TR climbing at one of the more friendly spots. You will only need some webbing and lockers to get a spot set up.

enjoy

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By Frenchy750
May 12, 2014
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Second the recommendation of hiring Seth form Cliffhanger Guides.

My wife and I have learned a TON from him and his wife Sabra.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Jun 16, 2014
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UPDATE:

Took the young couple out yesterday and had an absolute blast hanging out and climbing with them.

Really COOL people.

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By Guy Keesee
From Moorpark, CA
Jun 16, 2014
Big Boulder, just a bit downhill from Temple of Kali. Alabama Hills, CA.
Locker.... Good on you.

Giving back to the community.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Jun 16, 2014
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Guy,

it was a blast. A lot of laughing. I'd hang out with those two again any day of the week.

Anyone encountering them along the way, expect to have FUN!

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By matvey
Jun 16, 2014
Selfie @ Indian Cove
Locker, again, huge thanks! You're freakin awesome. Easily one of the best experiences in my life so far :)

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