By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Yo Momma'99 wrote: belay gloves are useless too....unless u r Stallone in Cliffhanger...
You have no idea what you're talking about. Look how many accidents are caused by people getting dropped because their belayer's hands were rope burned after a fall.
And what's useless about not having black hands after a day of climbing? | 
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Yo Momma'99 wrote: Rope burn is not caused by the lack of glove but by an incompetent belayer. Black hands and hands roughened from training ...callused is what makes them beautiful climber hands...not some soft pussy slug like appendages
Does it matter when you are the one that was dropped? I've read enough examples of burns being the cause of the fall to compell me to think they are not a bad idea at all.
Regardless rope burns happen and you can't say 100% that every case was bad belaying. They are an optional piece of safety equipment. No one HAS to wear them, but that certainly doesn't make them useless piece of gear. |
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By Peter Stokes
From Them Thar Hills
Nov 2, 2012
| Yo Mamma'99... member since Oct 20th, 2012. Looks like Ellenor is back... |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Yo Momma'99 wrote: Dude...seriously? Why? Dude the only time I glove up to belay is when the ropes are icy. You are either a beginner climber, a non moving cubical office worker or a hand model. Maybe a glove could be justified in the older days with hip belays and manila ropes where " the belay rope gotto run" type belay...but common man what r u talking about?
Dude..Dude..Dude...Dude...
From the Colorado RMRG
"20% of all climbing accidents could have been prevented by better belay practices such as tying a knot in the end of the rope, or wearing belay gloves".
I'd say that's a pretty high percentage of avoidable accidents. I don't wear them all the time, but quite often I do. I've never needed a seatbelt either, but I try to wear it most of the time. Just because I've never needed it, doesn't make it a bad idea.
Oh and you don't know the first thing about me dude...
www.rockymountainrescue.org/Climbing_Rescues_Causes_Injuries>>> |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Style and life tips from Ellenor.
And it's not even Christmas. |
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By waltereo
Nov 2, 2012
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The biwire carabiners could be interesting if you want a lightweight "locking carabiners" |
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By waltereo
Nov 2, 2012
| Peter Stokes wrote: Yo Mamma'99... member since Oct 20th, 2012. Looks like Ellenor is back...
Who the hell is Ellenor ?? |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| waltereo wrote: Who the hell is Ellenor ??
The queen of all trolls. Her accounts are consistently deactived, but she always morphs back under new avatars. Typically is known by bad grammar, run on sentences, ramblings and general incoherent mass posts that deconstruct most threads.
It's not a good thing. |
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By Ray Pinpillage
Nov 2, 2012
| Yo Momma'99 wrote: No and no.
Please light your head on fire. |
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By Tristan B
From La Crescenta, CA
Nov 2, 2012
| waltereo wrote: The biwire carabiners could be interesting if you want a lightweight "locking carabiners"
The biwire sucks, it's huge and heavy as shit. |
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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| All Killer No Filler wrote: Ellenor, no matter which name she's going by. I've got 99 problems and that bitch's spelling hasn't improved much.
Shhh... you'll wake it up.
Yo Momma'99 wrote: Im going onto my other minions ....chao...u can never catch me ....nah I just sometimes have time on my hands. This is more entertaining than tv
Good god, now look what you did. You woke it up.
Time to get back to work.
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=3AORKWkN3-c |
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By Rocky_Mtn_High
From Arvada, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| waltereo wrote: Who the hell is Ellenor ??
Scott McMahon wrote: The queen of all trolls. Her accounts are consistently deactived, but she always morphs back under new avatars. Typically is known by bad grammar, run on sentences, ramblings and general incoherent mass posts that deconstruct most threads. It's not a good thing.
Ellanor, it's almost ice climbing season in Canada. just sayin... |
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By Aric Datesman
Nov 2, 2012
| C'mon Folks. Take the Ellanor stuff to General. Or, better yet, RC. Or even better than that, drop it. |
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By Unassigned User
Nov 2, 2012
| Scott McMahon wrote: Dude..Dude..Dude...Dude... From the Colorado RMRG "20% of all climbing accidents could have been prevented by better belay practices such as tying a knot in the end of the rope, or wearing belay gloves". I'd say that's a pretty high percentage of avoidable accidents. I don't wear them all the time, but quite often I do. I've never needed a seatbelt either, but I try to wear it most of the time. Just because I've never needed it, doesn't make it a bad idea. Oh and you don't know the first thing about me dude... www.rockymountainrescue.org/Climbing_Rescues_Causes_Injuries>>> Not sure what kind of belaying you are doin but that is frickin scary! The way every belay device I have used works is that it locks under load. I use a simple BD device, no guide, no fancy gri-gri, and I have caught dudes weighing around 180 taking 10-20 ft whippers on overhanging stuff, it just picks me up and sends me for a ride, never pulls through my device. Belay gloves are for ppl who don't keep a hand on the brake. |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| J Hazard wrote: Not sure what kind of belaying you are doin but that is frickin scary! The way every belay device I have used works is that it locks under load. I use a simple BD device, no guide, no fancy gri-gri, and I have caught dudes weighing around 180 taking 10-20 ft whippers on overhanging stuff, it just picks me up and sends me for a ride, never pulls through my device. Belay gloves are for ppl who don't keep a hand on the brake.
Never said I've burned my hand. I only stated that I've read quite a few accounts of people badly burning their hands and made a decision to wear them as much as I remember to bring em. Kinda like my seatbelt example. I've never needed it, but I wear it anyways because sh*t happens.
I just mostly disagree with Ellenor saying they are the "most useless piece of gear", but I suppose that was my first mistake. |
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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Aric Datesman wrote: C'mon Folks. Take the Ellanor stuff to General. Or, better yet, RC. Or even better than that, drop it.
I don't think you understand the issue or the history there. It's like an infection. Moving it elsewhere is not the idea. The only place for her is deleted, and that what is happening again. |
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By J Q
Nov 2, 2012
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Oh you retarded stinky hippy, back at it again I see.
On the one hand I really appreciate the way you get old men with old egos and wrinkly balls to flagellate themselves for your pleasure. After all, the only way to get mad at something is to take that thing seriously, and anyone taking you seriously is seriously fuck## in the head.
On the other hand, you are obviously retarded, and I wonder if it wouldn't be better for society if you had a little supervision. If you could keep your nonsense to a minimum that would be great. A few zingers of stupidity here and there to lively up the place. Try not having constant verbal diarrhea for once and see if you don't feel better. Who knows, you might make a friend or two if you can get rid of your stink. |
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By Ray Pinpillage
Nov 2, 2012
| Aric Datesman wrote: C'mon Folks. Take the Ellanor stuff to General. Or, better yet, RC. Or even better than that, drop it.
Feeling left out of another five page argument? |
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By Marc H
From Lafayette, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| This thread just got rad. Good werk people.
And Ellenor. |
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By Locker
From Westminster, CO
Nov 3, 2012
| This thread is a great place to get a list for my Xmas gift wishes.
Everything I've ever wanted is on here. |
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By Peter Stokes
From Them Thar Hills
Nov 3, 2012
| You know, it's funny how things like this can change... 20 years ago I didn't think I'd want any quickdraws, but I use them a lot now. |
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