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Magic Dragon 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c R

   
Type:  Trad, 10 pitches
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Carlos & Leversee - 1976
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Submitted By: Josh Janes on Jun 18, 2006

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Matt Grieger takes in the view from 11 pitches off...

Description 

Magic Dragon is supposedly the longest climb in the Needles at 10-12 pitches and very enjoyable.

From the approach trail into the Needles, split off to the right at the saddle before ascending up to the foot of the lookout tower stairs. Follow a decent trail down and generally south and east. It's worthwhile to stay on the trail which is marked by little faded red bows tied in various trees and bushes. Eventually you will reach the sheer west face of the Magician (which, incidentally, has a few short, nice-looking crack climbs). Continue to descend until it is possible to traverse all the way around to the southern foot of the formation. Pick your line at this point: The climb generally follows the ridge for several pitches until a key (fairly obvious) point where the right side cliffs out and you can cross over to slabs on the left side. This is a little past halfway. The first of these upper slabs is the crux - a wandering, mostly unprotected journey up 5.8+ rock, 20-40 feet left of a long, left-facing corner system (which, if you don't want to run it out, can be climbed at 5.10 with gear). Continue up slabs to a headwall below the lookout tower. This can be surmounted on the left (west) via a number of weaknesses. Follow the ridge to the tower, hop the handrail, take in the view, and descend the steps.

A few notes:

  • I didn't lead this climb or break it into pitches, so my description is pretty vague, but the route is fairly easy to follow and I suspect a standard rack would be just fine.

  • Several of the pitches, especially the upper slabs, had bolted belays (generally old bolts at stances) that you can use as landmarks.

  • Remember not to approach the lookout tower before 9 AM or after 6 PM as the resident values her privacy!!!

  • I can't say I recommend this climb as a secure free solo.


Protection 

Standard rack.



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Ready for some slab, at the belay for pitch three. This is looking up the Magician from the Horses Head. The easy slab right above me is the "no-pro" pitch.
Ready for some slab, at the belay for pitch three....
Mike Schneiter on the first pitch of Magic Dragon.
Mike Schneiter on the first pitch of Magic Dragon.
Mike Schneiter on the 5.7 finger crack on Magic Dragon. I don't remember which pitch. Great fun.
Mike Schneiter on the 5.7 finger crack on Magic Dr...
Mike Schneiter on the 5.7 finger crack on Magic Dragon.
Mike Schneiter on the 5.7 finger crack on Magic Dr...
Profile of the Magic Dragon from the approach trail
Profile of the Magic Dragon from the approach trai...
Mike Schneiter in an endless sea of knobs on Magic Dragon, high on the route.
Mike Schneiter in an endless sea of knobs on Magic...
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By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Jul 24, 2006

The preferred start to Magic Dragon is via Black Magic. This variation starts in a gaping left-facing corner/chimney and follows cracks/gully up the western face of the Magician for two long pitches (5.7). The top of Black Magic intersects Magic Dragon at a sprawling ledge.

From here, be sure to TR the outstanding "Silence of the Clams" (5.10+). This can be TRed as one long pitch with a 60m rope.

By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Jul 24, 2006

The clear crux of Magic Dragon is on the 3rd pitch, in a massive left-facing corner above the sprawling ledge where Black Magic converges. With decent 1/2-3/4" gear (and a hopelessly stuck cam) below you, pull up over an awkward, sloping bulge.

One more long crack/corner pitch leads to endless slab climbing (although some stay right, pull a few slab moves, and take another corner system--this time, right-facing--up for a long pitch to a small pine tree).

From here, the route finding gets interesting. Long pitches of unprotected 5.5 slab climbing connect hard to find three-bolt anchors. All anchors were 1/4" bolts at last check. Each successive pitch gets lower-angle and easier.

The final short, 5.8 offwidth pitch protects with a single 4" piece.

The single best descent information can be found at ASCA

By Michael Schneiter
From: Glenwood Springs, CO
Feb 22, 2008

This is a great route to do on a Sunday when the fire tower lady is serving cookies.

By ttriche
From: Altadena, CA
Jul 8, 2008

There is a great variation (many of them, actually, but at least one of them keeps the grade at 5.8 and restores some excitement to the latter half of the route) near the top, which (I think) everyone should try. Instead of hemming to the left near the end of the route, if you instead aim for the ships-prow formation and go around to the right, a very exciting move protected by a craptacular girth-hitched knob (no feet; jump, heel-hook, and mantel to get going) will put you right on top of the rock and level with the lookout. Great way to wrap up a leisurely route with a bit spicier finish.

This and other variations are described at EC Joe's site, vertical20.com/Some_Mo__Classic_Climbs.html if you like.

Also, Eddie is now selling old copies of the 1st edition guidebook on eBay. Personally, I'd go for Randy Vogel's "SoCal Select" but there's not near the amount of history in that tome as Eddie's.

By Floridaputz
From: Oakland Park, Florida
Sep 2, 2008

We did the black magic start. P3 is the business with a thoughtful little overhang. This climb is a lot of fun. The position and exposure on the huge slab is great, and the views of the other needles. The finish, we took the east side, is the sh*t, climbing right into the watch tower. That really makes it classic.

By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Jul 5, 2009

Here is a printable topo of Magic Dragon from Alexander Cooper & Clint Cummins' Needles Mini Guide

By Jordan Ramey
From: Calgary, Alberta
Oct 5, 2009

There are two great new ASCA bolted rap stations on the West side of the formation (away from the other Needles) directly under the fire lookout. Down about 15 feet on a great shelf. One 60m rope and two raps down and towards the approach stairs put your right in a gully near the base of the stairs past the locked stairs gate.

www.safeclimbing.org/areas/california/needles.htm

By Dave Daly
From: Del Mar, CA
Aug 23, 2010
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c R

Want some spicey variation action? Try the second pitch of 'Strange Brew'. As per the topo from Clint Cummings on 'Strange', climb tree, get onto the slab and move up and left. Find the one and only "so-so" knob to sling (20 feet off the belay).....that's it! As for the bolt that is shown on the topo......forget it! It's long gone. I spent a good 5 minutes looking for it along the way. You want an "X" factor....here you go. Run it out for 65 feet, passing the 5.7/5.8 moves past the mid way point of the pitch. Yeah baby!!

Highlights (IMO): The 5.7 finger crack and the short 5.8 finish at the tower.

By Richard Shore
Oct 3, 2010

Some fun and varied climbing, long, but quite a few unmemorable pitches. My least favorite route to date in the Needles. Clint cummins topo has some errors regarding pitch lengths, beware. P2 and P3 can be linked into a long pitch with a 70m. P5, the RF corner to the bolted belay, cannot be less than 70m - be prepared to simul here, or build a natural anchor at the top of the corner. Also, P5 belay has one bomber ASCA bolt and one 1/4". There is no protection bolt on P6 as shown on the topo. Also, the anchor at top of P7 consists of one 1/4" and a rusty buttonhead with a leeper hanger. These need replacement!

By Simon Thompson
From: New Paltz, NY
Dec 3, 2011

Love the route description. Sounds like you had a fun time. Can't wait to do this one!

By Matt N
From: Santa Barbara, CA
Oct 22, 2012

I think we ended up with 7 pitches. Apparently the Black Magic start P1-3 can be combined into 2 w/ a 60m - I realized this when faced with the crux bulge on our P2. Some simul on a couple pitches higher up and it all went by pretty quick. Just wander upwards. Beta didn't clear much up.

Okay route. Best for its location and position.