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Looking for a "mentor" willing to pay!

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Ryan Dodd · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 10

Moved to Colorado a few months ago with the intent to learn the ways of sport climbing.

I currently live in the lakewood area so climbs over there would be ideal.

Ive done gym climbing a number of times and have a harness, chalk bag, and shoes. I plan to accumulate all the other necessary gear, but figure I should know what I am doing before dishing out all the cash.

If your willing to have me tag along or go one-on-one then I will be willing to pay.

Not sure on the going rate or what this type of instruction is worth so if you are interested you can contact me here or at my cell: 928-287-0490.

Thanks

Ryan Arment · · Boulder, CO · Joined May 2010 · Points: 71

PM'd you

Evan Sanders · · Westminster, CO · Joined Dec 2010 · Points: 140

A guide is going to cost you anywhere from 150-400 for about a half day of climbing.

Someone on here will probably be nice enough to take you out for free. You have a lot of very helpful people amidst the sea of not-so-helpful ones. If no one has offered in 2 1/2 weeks I'll be out there and I'll show you the ropes (*rimshot*)

Ryan Dodd · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 10

Varment- Im not sure how to check PM's here, but I emailed you back!

Evan Sanders- I would imagine a full on guide is going to be very expensive and thats not exactly what I'm looking for... someone who has been doing this for a few years and enjoys helping out the newbies is perfect.. However I dont mind paying for good instruction whether that's in cash, gear, beers, etc.

When you are in this area give me a call/PM me and we will go from there!

thanks

Jon H · · PC, UT · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 118

Cash and gear should be unnecessary. Beers, however, are always appreciated.

Chris Plesko · · Westminster, CO · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 485

Do you belay? Do you lead belay? I've taken out noobs plenty of times but if you're not a safe and competent belayer then not too many are going to be interested.

Matt Shepard · · Broomfield, CO · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 386

Ryan,

What is your Availability?

Ryan Dodd · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 10

Ive belayed everytime when I go to the gym if that is what you are referring to. Dont think Ive done any lead belaying because that would mean we are not doing a "top rope" style... which is the only thing Ive done.

Maybe some background information will help with this.
I am 23 years old, graduated from ASU in December with a bachelors in finance.
Moved up here to start my career working as a financial advisor.

I dont mean for this info to make me seem snobby, just want to convey that I am not some punk kid looking for the thrill of climbing up a mountain.

I'd like to think that I am very responsible, learn quickly, and am the type of person that respects my superiors. If you are taking the time to instruct me then you will have my attention, respect, and willingness to learn.

I would be available Saturday/Sundays for the most part.

During the week will be a little rough as I work 7-5 then hit the gym 7-9, but I can always take a friday off or get cut my day short.

Thanks!

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

Be picky about who you choose.
If someone wants cash, but isn't a guide... that might not be your best option.

If you want me to take you out for a while, then my suggestion is to come out for a few trail/crag days and volunteer your time and I or one of the other 'old timers' there will get you out on at least a pitch.

This is a win-win. You get to contribute to the community, and you find/associate with people who are charitable/volunteering types. If you are interested in being on the 'work list' of Emails of people that we invite to work on trails, PM me and I'll add you.

Ryan Dodd · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 10

Tony- Good info. Definitely add me to the email list and whenever you go out and there is room for me shoot me a PM or text.

thank you.

Brendan Blanchard · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 590

To address the belaying aspect, I've been told by a guide in the North Conway area:

"You get really good at soloing as a guide. Guides are always soloing when they're on the job."

Tj Elmblad · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 5

I live in lakewood, no need to pay. Lets go to clear creek sometime any evening friday or weekend works for me. I would love to pass the favor along, as people taught me out of the kindness of there hearts. TRAVIS 720 935 0657 TEXT ME, CALL ME WHATEVER WORKS.

Ryan Dodd · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 10

TJ- I cant tell if that is sarcasm but either way Ill shoot you a text.

thanks

fluff head · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 65

the only payment you should be willing to offer and a good mentor willing to accept would be your time, effort, and committment. Put your fucking wallet away and whip out your fucking nuts

Ryan Dodd · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 10

If my instructor wants me to whip out my nuts I think they have the wrong idea.................. hah

If I could get away with not having to actually pay for instruction that would be great. I would be more then happy to pay for gas, entrance to parks, or any of that stuff.

anyways, thanks for the interesting advice.

brat . · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 81

I've taught several folks "the ropes", and offers to pay for gas/entrance and maybe beer or dinner occasionally is "the going rate" in my world.

But here's a tip... most climbing gyms offer lead climbing classes. If you take one of their classes, they will teach you to lead belay and usually have you catch some lead falls. Spend your money on THAT, then when you post up on MP you can say "I know how to safely lead belay!"

willeslinger · · Golden, Colorado · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 25

I think more or less by definition a mentor wouldn't charge you money. I live right up the street from Lakewood in Golden. if you ever have an inclination to learn how to trad climb, I'd love to throw my name in the hat. I love teaching that stuff, and I'm always stoked to meet new folks to climb with.

Greg D · · Here · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 883
Ryan Dodd wrote:... to learn the ways of sport climbing.
As if it were some ancient chinese art.

Step one: climb up
Step two: clip bolt
Step three: yell take!
Step four: rest
Step five: repeat 1 through 4.
Step six: talk about grades a lot, even the routes you hangdogged.

Now you know the ways of sport climbing.
Jeff G · · Colorado · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,098

You're funny Greg!

teece303 · · Highlands Ranch, CO · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 596

This post makes me wonder: are there any standardized rules about accepting money for climbing instruction? I would think you would need licenses and stuff to do that, but I don't know. I imagine it is only regulated in federal and state parks, but I'm curious.

(I'm not looking to do any informal guiding like that at all, I'm just curious.)

michaeltarne · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 120
Timothy.Klein wrote:This post makes me wonder: are there any standardized rules about accepting money for climbing instruction? I would think you would need licenses and stuff to do that, but I don't know. I imagine it is only regulated in federal and state parks, but I'm curious. (I'm not looking to do any informal guiding like that at all, I'm just curious.)
As soon as you ask for money, there's a whole new world of liability- basically, you end up responsible for their actions, and if they get hurt, you're screwed.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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