Issues in carrying gear/ product design
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Hi everyone! |
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Okay, I'll give you a hard one. Needing stretch/mesh pockets on the sides/back for storing gear when needed (think rain shell on the outside for grabbing in a pinch in iffy conditions), but nonexistent/streamlined so they don't snag when not needed. |
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Everyone's #1 should be shoes that are burly enough for the descent but light/small enough to carry well. I love my Patagucci Rovers for this purpose, but they're discontinued, and not really good for 5+ mile days imho. |
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keeping my belay beer cold. |
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I've always been surprised how many climbing packs don't have actual haul loops. I'm talking about multi-pitch free routes, where you might haul a pack through a couple of hard pitches. |
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Worrying about carrying enough stuff for two climbers on a long day in one pack, so as the leader I eventually wind up carrying my own pack as well. |
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Thanks these are awesome so far! Shoes was also my #1 because my pack is small so I definitely have to attach my shoes to the outside, and I HATE when they get stuck while I'm climbing. |
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In regard to shoes: Sportiva TX2 |
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Josh Kornish wrote:In regard to shoes: Sportiva TX2Yes. And clip BOTH shoes in. Regardless of the elastic thingy that makes them into a tight package. |
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Carrying water and shoes. |
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I second Andrew. I think water carry is one of the best areas that can be improved upon. This is always the most complicated factor in my experience planning larger climbs - but oh does dehydration make for a trippy climb. haha |
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I'll second water. Clip a bottle to your harness and it keeps your center of gravity low, which is nice when it gets steep, but then it also swings when you make a more dynamic movement. Carry a bladder and you can keep it close to your back, but now you're loading your fingers more......and it SUCKS when you have a chimney. |
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These bottles are pretty sweet for carrying on multipitch. I probably wouldn't take it on anything you'd have to chimney in, but they're pretty burly. |
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Meg, |
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if you can solve the problem of stuff carried on the upper body swinging around to the front and getting in the way on slabs |
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apoet wrote:Carrying water and shoes.A poet? You are not But I see from lookin' That Sean C needs a re-adjustment Do not re-invent the wheel, & reuse re-purpose . . . Gatorade And Pwer-aid( especially ) taped with the grey that will save the world ; cloth infused duct Tape, will give you cheap long lasting water bottles. If you do them up with a full wrap, so that you have a roll of The Grey along with you it accomplishes dual purposes.( & provides some insulation) Once wrapped in duct tape a bottle may out live many peoples climbing lives. Stop buying more plastic that has built in obsolescence !, unless you need to waste your coin, lookin' cool with the latest junk. Whatever you need to feel like you're climber have at it , but what you do need is not for sale. Beyond that the slab problem can be a PIA, yes! I would wrap or stuff my gear for the head wall out of the way by using small sacks or SOCKS! Five cams per sock then the the other gear that was not needed also in a package, that I would rubber band together and clip to a back loop , (Yates harnesses were full strength everywhere.) This may be hard or impossible to visualize. Think -bundled together held 'tubed' in socks . gear that can still migrate but captured together to reduce the clusterfux. . . YMMV. |
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Sean H wrote:Everyone's #1 should be shoes that are burly enough for the descent but light/small enough to carry well.Bingo. For this main purpose, I actually prefer to rap off than walk off. I dont want to bring bulky shoes that take up a crap ton of room in my pack. There is a demand for a light, compact, low-profile shoe that doesent break the bank. Most of the options that exist are basically $120 sandals with sticky rubber on them. |
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Alternative solution to racking biners for cams, esp small cams, in which a traditional racking biner won't be used to connect to rope |
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Please make a haul bag that can carry 2 pair of shoes, a liter water bottle, sandwich, bag of chips, an apples, 2 crushable water proof wind shirts, sunscreen, bug spray. |
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I'll bite..convince people to carry less shit ! I bet that would help a lot. |
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m maup wrote:Thanks these are awesome so far! .... Keep the suggestions coming!Apparently "awesome", but not quite awesome enough... Anyway, it is fun to read about the various ideas. Seems like a good approach for designing new products. I'm just joking about your choice of words. |