Isolation Canyon 

Mark: what's the point of posting it if it is "show and tell only". You don't put a beer in front of a recovering alcoholic. By the way, Paola gave me your info and I'll give you a call when I get to flag. Cheers, Erik.

The point of "show and tell only" is that we don't mind sharing this area but we want to be discreet because we don't want to see it grid bolted. Post me, or other informed users if you want to go and we'll take you out there.

Do you have a general vicinity? i.e. northern, central, or southern Arizona. Knowing that might make me consider if it is worth contacting you for a trip there (i.e. how far is it from Albuquerque, or northeastern Arizona.)

As posted other places on the Internet...

Pine Canyon... near Strawberry, AZ

So, whens the "show and tell only" going to go away???
Looks like there's 70 plus routes there already.
The words out, no grid bolting, or bolting cracks. We hear and obey.
Hell, I climb with a guide book author and even though he has a financial interest in not posting topos he still does.
Lighten up and post a topo already!!

Sometimes I can't believe how lucky I am! I got to have a personal tour of this really cool place by Manny. Now it isn't often that an old crag rat such as myself gets too worked up over new crags but I have to say I was absolutely enchanted by Isolation Canyon. This area will inevitably end up a "destination location". The rock is fantastic beautiful stone. Manny and his friends have worked tirelessly to establish trails and routes of the highest quality. Please respect not only their efforts but the area as well. BE AWARE OF AND SENSITIVE TO THE WILDLIFE! This is after all their home we just visit. If you run across Manny or any of the locals buy them a beer they deserve it! Manny Thanx for the tour believe me I will return.

WOW, don't let anyone tell you the mountain doesn't get hot.
Yesterday, over 100f. It was a tough hike out from the main wall.
Bring lots of water.
Love the rock at Iso.

Went to Iso again this week, and as alway totally alone. In the last two weeks have done Manny's classics Angel Wing, Walking Dead Arete, La vida Loca and Everything Gone Green and Gone Grey, even got on War Hippies third pitch sweet......first time to see a critter. Mike enconter a small rattler on a ledge as we rapped. Best time to arrived this time of year 9:30am. Corner climbs in shade while rest of wall cooling off.
Highly recomment Spinous Process and Allez Lou for a mix of trad and sport fun....

Been here twice now. Still can't figure out where everything is from the info on MP.
The climbing is very good, however.
Thanks for the great stuff you guys, I will be back again and again.

One comment, no one who would want to "grid bolt" this place will ever do it. It's to hard to get on top of these climbs and rap bolt them. This always filters out 90% of the wood be bosch-ers.
I really think your concerns about this are now unfounded. Time to post an overview with all routes listed in order.
Save us Isolation Canyon enthusiasts a head ache would ya!!

Cheers,

How about unveiling the location of this crag to the masses?

Manny is putting together a guide, it's a bit complicated to find the area/ routes on you own; therefore: go with someone who's already been or wait for the guide or take your chances with the info available on MP.

I fully support the show and tell ethic. it reminds me of the stories i have heard of other climbing area in AZ like Granite Mt and Paradise forks. Lovejoy has told me stories of the early days of GM and how only few people where climbing there and how it keep the mountain quiet and peacefully. Stay strong and keep your climbing areas as secrets as you want, because once the circus arrives in town the fun will be over.

If one wants to keep an area secret, perhaps one should refrain from posting the area on the Internet in the first place.

There's a somewhat detailed description of the hike in on the internet. Just takes a search engine and a little patience to find it.

rattlers are out, saw two last week. be careful!

How long must we wait to find out where this is?

www.toddshikingguide.com/Hikes/Arizona/Tonto/Tonto13.htm

The exploration is half (or more) of the fun! Anyone who wants to find this place will figure it out after a few trips.

as far as finding your way out there being fun, i gotta concur with roman. today we headed out there to climb main wall and decided to be in the sun instead. the sunny climbs are much fun. especially if you are on-sighting with no guide, just route names someone has written on wooden sticks and wedged in the cracks at the base of the climbs. it was fun looking around, reading the sticks, guessing at the grade, and the routes are well bolted...

Howdy ya'll, I have been sorting routes in order, and changing up the boundaries of the walls to be congruent with Manny's new guide. The routes for the Main Wall North and Center are now in proper order as you go down the wall. Though not every route has been entered here on MP. Hope this helps make more sense of the place for those of us who don't know it all that well yet. A big thanks to Manny for the info, and all his hard work there. The new guide looks very well done, and I can't wait to feel the heft of it in book form.

I wanted to announce that I am working with Manny and we will be launching the website shortly for the new guidebook at www.isolationcanyon.com. It will have some content and we will be happy to showcase pictures that you have from your visits.
Feel free to backlink our site in your Facebook posts so that we can build SEO - Thanks!

Shiloh
CLimbPHX.com

Congrats to Manny for getting the guide out for Iso!!! I already got my copy and can't wait to read it cover to cover.

Mark I'm not sure about PRG, but I know they have them in stock at the Arizona Hiking Shack.

Yes the book has approach beta - PM me if your still looking for
one.
Shiloh@ClimbPHX.com

so in other words its 'show and tell only'...unless there's money to be made from a guidebook?

i think that speaks for itself.

Net of expenses (printing, retailer's markup,etc...)how much can he be making off this guidebook per hour invested? $3 an hour?

What's left over is probably not even enough to cover the cost of the bolts he put up.

Sheesh...

How's this on hot days? Shade easy to find?

It can get pretty hot out there anywhere in the sun.

There is shade all day at the base of Shadow Play on the Main Wall - North. The rest of the Main Wall goes into shade around 1:00pm this time of year.

Random question. I got suckered into driving because my car is the most fuel efficient out of my group of friends. Is my Honda accord going to safely make it? I took it to Jack's and was worried because the wrong turn off was taken and things got bad and I just don't want to destroy my car

I haven't been to Iso in awhile, but in the past we've always taken a car and been fine. We usually park at a small open area on the right of the road, 200 yards or so shy of where the high clearance vehicles park. Unless the road conditions have dramatically changed, you'll have no issues.

I climbed here for the first time last weekend. It is some of the best rock in Arizona. Really cool climbing.

Manny, I do recommend that the guidebook ratings get adjusted in the next edition. We found them to be on average one or two full letter grades soft compared to the rest of Arizona.