By Ian F.
From Phx
Jan 14, 2011
| Dude, you only have four weeks to climb. It will never come out in time. | 
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By MisterE
From Los Angeles, for now
Jan 14, 2011
| The final updates are being processed now. The final proof will be ordered very soon. |
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By Eric D
From Flagstaff, AZ
Feb 7, 2011
| Is a general Northern AZ guide coming out too? Or just Sedona? |
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By MisterE
From Los Angeles, for now
Feb 7, 2011
| The "Above the rim" guide will be a separate project, about the same size as the Sedona guide, around 600 routes as well, but fewer areas. Paradise Forks, Winslow, Elden areas, The Pit, and a few more outlying areas.
That one is the next project, we have the raw data ready, but we need pictures, descriptions, maps, etc...
UPDATE: The Sedona guidebook is going to the page-maker person this week!
Thanks for your interest! |
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By Eric D
From Flagstaff, AZ
Feb 9, 2011
| Great! I just moved to Flag from Tucson. I climbed in Sedona a few times while living in Tucson. But, I'm just starting to discover how great the climbing is in Sedona, and how much great climbing there is. Psyched! |
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By tylerm
From Flagstaff, Az
Feb 20, 2011
| So is the big date in sight yet? |
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By Ian F.
From Phx
Feb 21, 2011
| Are you going to use it to change diapers?
Times up buddy. |
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By danny m
From Gilbert, az
Apr 11, 2011
| Any news on when/how I can get ahold of one of these |
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By Colin Cox
Apr 14, 2011
| Don't hold your breath. It's still a long ways off. Especially the NA guide. |
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By BASE99999
Oct 7, 2011
| From what I heard on the street the NorAZ guides have died before they got out of the gate. |
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By Larry
From SoAZ
Oct 7, 2011
| Please elaborate. |
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By MisterE
From Los Angeles, for now
Oct 18, 2011
| BASE99999 wrote: Something happened and the guides are not being printed.
That is patently untrue.
We have had some set-backs, this is true, but the Sedona guide is still in the works. David and I are both continuing our work on the guide, and I will just say that the longer the time that it is taking the better the finished product will be.
We are way over announcing release dates, but suffice it to say: The guidebook WILL BE RELEASED.
Hope that clears up any misconceptions. |
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By Paul Davidson
Oct 18, 2011
| +1
Hang in there Eric and just release it when it's done. |
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By TBag
Oct 22, 2011
| What's the latest ETA? |
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By MisterE
From Los Angeles, for now
Oct 22, 2011
| Thanks, Paul.
I will tell you this: All of the 80 or so pictures are resized and ready, the 101 hand-drawn topos and maps are resized and ready, all of the data is in Excel and ready, all of the text documents are ready.
I am awaiting a final run-through the text for accuracy from David, which is fairly far along from what I have gathered.
Thanks to all of our advertisers and supporters for their patience in this process, we are sure everyone will be quite pleased with the final product.
I mean, for comparison, look at Alan Watts update of the Smith Rock guide - it took him over 10 years, and he wasn't self-publishing. The self-published Red Rocks guide took 10 years, as well. Although not the breadth and length of those two books, we are dealing with similar amounts of "new" information, and don't have nearly the reference materials available to us that either of those book-writers had.
What are we on, year 3? Given that the guidebook hasn't had a thorough updated in 20 years and there are 23 separate areas to deal with, I think we are doing pretty well. |
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By RyanJames
Oct 22, 2011
| We're definitely looking forward to it... Thanks for all your work! |
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By Base100000
Oct 22, 2011
| This is Base99999's father, he has been sent to his room and is no longer able to use the in-turd-net.
I apologize for all his absurd postings.
That is all. |
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By Mark S
Nov 1, 2011
| Wow, someone got rubbed the wrong way.
ArizonaHighStep wrote: Erik Wolfe (MisterE) Facebook posts... May 28 at 7:36am Erik Wolfe wrote: “ý120 hours, 11 days later: Complete redo of 154 photos and photo topos, as well as reworking all 108 hand-drawn topos. Everything is page-ready. My fingers hurt.” September 29 at 9:03am Erik Wolfe wrote: Tired of the run-around. Just ordered InDesign and tutorials - gonna do the damn guide-books in-house. Benefits: no paying for Page-maker person and no third-party to have to convey our "aesthetic" to. Old dog & new tricks - psyched! September 29 at 12:13pm Erik Wolfe wrote: "Thanks, Jason. I already have three things that will help a LOT: 1. A proof, 2. All data in Excel, and 3. All photos and topos resized and ready." October 24 at 7:18am Erik Wolfe: "I do have a proof I am working from, which is nice because for the most part, I just need to duplicate the page in front of me. Must...get...through...training... Maybe I'll have Skip hide the proof until I finish. LOL!" Yeah well hmmm.... lets see... since you told someone that you wouldn't pay them for the ACTUAL work that they had done and still would have had to do... you have spent 8 months… countless hours… developed more corrections… the guide has become more pages long… you have had to PURCHASE In-Design… and then LEARN In-Design…but you argued that… “…the changes were soooo easy a monkey could do them…” “…and then argued that a ONE-TIME fee of $4800 (with no interest paid as this $$ wouldn’t be paid until guidebooks were sold) was unreasonable for 3 separate sets of changes over 2 years (with more changes to come) and countless hours put into making these changes when all of the materials were supposed to be done and ready for the “Pagemaker Person” to just “drop into page layout”…” So what did you find? That no other “Pagemaker Person” would take on your project for the dollar amount that YOU thought was reasonable? You still owe the old “Pagemaker Person” for all the work that they did… hence what you said in your post… “I do have a proof I am working from, which is nice because for the most part, I just need to duplicate the page in front of me” And if you can’t see that then you are about as screwed up as YOUR information that is in the guidebook…(or should I say MOUNTAIN PROJECT information) karma will come around… |
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By Abel Jones
From Hickory, NC
Nov 2, 2011
| Bloom's busted his hump climbin those unknowns and runouts that are in the book but needed double checking for accuracy. This guide will be well worth the wait. |
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By Mark S
Nov 2, 2011
| ArizonaHighStep wrote: More like someone got SCREWED the wrong way...
Agreed. When something (this guide) is delayed by more than a year, something big happened. Money/business bring out the worst. Maybe someone will come clean. |
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By Maidy
Jan 17, 2012
| Hmm. Well, We've been loathe to respond at all to this drama but it's getting tiresome. So much hand-wringing for water under the bridge.
For those reading - the fact is... this entire matter was handled through proper legal channels. I'm sorry if you (AHS) are unhappy with the legal and professional decisions you made. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt. It was ultimately - your decision to break the contract. It's business and it didn't work out. Time to move on and let it go.
I'm not going to go into the exact details of this private matter in a public forum, but I hope that the readers are intelligent enough to ignore the bitter rants coming from just one side. Our friends that want the real story can PM me. I'm not going to post again.
The book will be out soon. A qualified person is helping us along so that there will be no more delays.
BTW: We complained and flagged your posts because you are stalking us, and are repeatedly accessing and quoting a private Facebook account (you have been banned from) on a public forum. The invasion of privacy and repeated quoting of FB posts is really pretty immature IMO. |
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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Jan 17, 2012
| Oh you kooky Arizonans! |
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By Steve Pulver
From Tucson, AZ
Apr 12, 2012
| So its been 3 years since someone posted the guidebook was about ready. Are there any status updates? |
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