By Braxton Norwood From Tucson Jul 22, 2008
| What's with all the Eldo accidents this year? Are there more than usual this summer, or is it just that accidents getting more publicity? |  |
By Jeremy From Boulder, CO Jul 22, 2008
| Nope, there just seem to be a lot more accidents.
Hopefully the guy's OK. |  |
By Heath Urie Jul 22, 2008
| Hello again, my name is Heath Urie, and I'm a reporter at the Daily Camera in Boulder. There was another accident at the canyon today where Preston fell. Initial word is that the man is in critical condition and at a Denver hospital.
We heard there may have been friends of family of Preston's out there today. Is anyone willing to talk to us about it this afternoon?
If so, please call me at 303-473-1328 or 303-472-9890. I'm hoping to get some people to chat today.
Thanks again, you've all been great to us in this difficult time. |  |
By Joe Huggins Jul 22, 2008
| Over the thirty or so years I've climbed in the canyon there have been bad years and good for the accident rates. I can remember seasons with scary numbers of fatalities,(rarely soloists). Maybe the increased attention to our sport as a whole encourages people to try the glamorous variations such as third classing, even without the required skills. (Panic containment is the most important when soloing.) It's always a drag when someone gets hurt or killed, and yet that possibility remains a part of the sports' essential charm. |  |
By rob rebel From boulder, co Jul 22, 2008
| I hope the unknown climber pulls through. This has been a bad year for accidents.
Did something change on the route to make it significantly harder recently? If the climber was indeed soloing werks up you would think it was well below his abilities. Is a key hold now gone? |  |
By Mike Larson From Aurora, CO Jul 22, 2008
| rob rebel wrote: Did something change on the route to make it significantly harder recently? If the climber was indeed soloing werks up you would think it was well below his abilities. Is a key hold now gone?
Sure seems like that is the case. Anybody been up on it recently? For two climbers to take bad falls at the same place on the same route in less than two weeks (particularly a soloist who likely was familair with the route [or at least was probably well within his abilities]) seems very odd. Here's hoping the guy pulls through. |  |
By Sirius From Oakland, CA Jul 22, 2008
| Best wishes to the injured - pull through!
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Unrelated:
Heath Urie, why this angle in approaching your piece?:
"Despite the proximity of the accidents, which happened just 10 days apart, there are no plans to close the popular climbing route, said Deb Frazier, spokeswoman for Colorado State Parks."
Is it your position that the route should be 'closed'? |  |
By Ray Lovestead From Boulder, CO Jul 22, 2008
| There do seem to be a high number of accidents this summer. It's gettin' hot - so maybe it's a good time to take a little hiatus from the bad mojo floating around.
Maybe I'll pick up golf.
Ray |  |
By Shawn Mitchell From Broomfield Jul 22, 2008
| Mike Larson wrote: Anybody been up on it recently? I climbed it about 3 weeks ago and didn't notice anything different from prior ascents.
On a different note that could have gone on the other thread, but I didn't want to burden the family...
Coming down from the West Ridge Saturday morning, I noticed a climber with a jug of water and scrub brush removing traces from the rocks at the bottom of Werk Supp. My partner and I thanked him for his service and reflected a few moments. A bit later I went back and saw a couple guys studying the base, looking up, conferring, and looking some more. They turned out to be mountain rescue volunteers composing the final report and conclusions.
It struck me not just what a community of climbers we are, but the humanity of our collective efforts. One man was cleansing evidence of a tragedy. Others were trying to answer questions for loved ones and provide information to protect others. Everyone who knew what was going on was affected. It was more than a little touching.
Be safe out there. |  |
By Mike Wysuph From Broomfield, CO Jul 22, 2008
| Shawn Mitchell wrote: It struck me not just what a community of climbers we are, but the humanity of our collective efforts. One man was cleansing evidence of a tragedy. Others were trying to answer questions for loved ones and provide information to protect others. Everyone who knew what was going on was affected. It was more than a little touching. Be safe out there.
I'm gonna quote that so people can read it again. This is what I want to think of the climbing community....nothing else. |  |
By jack roberts Jul 22, 2008
| I went up on the route the other day and as far as I can tell the route is the same as it ever was.
I'm not ready to put out an opinion of why I think so many people are hitting the deck this season. Mountain Project people are wayyyy too critical of anyone who has a strong opinion of anything or even if they just put their opinion out there (notice Shawn's comment in reference to what Ken wrote......).
There are more climbers out there every year, more of them are inexperienced, the rock is hot and slick, and people make mistakes all the time.
The rock hasn't changed. |  |
By James Beissel From Boulder, CO Jul 22, 2008
| I always thought the first pitch was the crux until I read the guidebook description after climbing it a half dozen times. Now I know.
Best wishes to everyone involved. |  |
By Scott M. Mossman Jul 22, 2008
| The Camera story says "fell from nearly the same location", but is this info coming from a climber or a reporter? If it's not a climber it could just mean anywhere on the Bastille, do we know he fell on Werksup?
Edit - just reread, I guess witnesses and sheriff said almost the same spot, so it appears to be Werks. Not enough info until we hear from someone who was there. I'm sure hoping he pulls through. |  |
By msamet Jul 22, 2008
| Many good thoughts and positive energy to the climber involved. |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 22, 2008
| Jimn Seiler wrote: My very best wishes go out to this man. I work at the hospital that he was brought to and saw him come in off the helicopter and being a climber, when I saw his climbing shoes my heart sank, a little too close to home for me. I left the hospital at 3:30pm and he was already out of surgery and heading to intensive care which was a very positive indication to me. He's got to be a fighter and I'm sure he's got a long road ahead of him but like I said before I am pulling for this man with all my heart. I am all about climbing, climbers, and our climbing community and I love to see positive and not negative.
Jim,
Thanks for the news. I'm glad to hear that he came through surgery. That's always a positive sign. |  |
By Bryan Gartland From Bozeman Jul 22, 2008
| Positive thoughts to the guy who fell today, best of luck pulling through.
There is defintiely a subtle funk to the start to Werk Supp. A while back a friend of mine fell from that same general area while climbing alone. He was lucky enough to escape with one broken bone but was/is (seemingly) too talented a climber to pop off a 5.8. |  |
By Eric Goltz From Boulder, CO Jul 22, 2008
| I was climbing in Eldo all day today, and started up the Bastille Crack at about 12:45, apparently just after the rescue vehicles left. The temp was about 98 degrees, needless to say bad soloing conditions. I believe the route was in the shade at the time, but still hot from a sunny day. Best wishes to the victim and his family. Everybody be careful out there. |  |
By tbol Jul 22, 2008
| I saw this man fall and was the first one to respond to him. Everyone there did the best they could to help him. I don't know waht to say except that I hope he pulls through and I can get a chance to hang out with him. Thank you to the park rangers and the professional/nonprofessional rescuers involved. This man was in rough shape and I think everyone could do him some service by laying off the speculation and criticism. If anyone reads this and is close to the injured climber my thoughts are with you and feel free to contact me via mt. project. I hope he makes it ok. |  |
By Robert 560 From Ogden, Utah Jul 22, 2008
| Wow another sad story. Best wishes to the climber and his family.
Robert |  |
By Callie Rennison From Boulder, Colorado Jul 22, 2008
| Thanks for the update. I have been thinking of the man all day. I hope that we get nothing but good news about him from with every passing day. |  |
By Hank Caylor Administrator From Eldorado Springs, CO Jul 22, 2008
| WAAAAAYYYYYY positive energy and a few prayers as well bro. C'mon man, rub some dirt in it and get back in the game! |  |
By Russell Holcomb From Boulder, Colorado Jul 22, 2008
| Let's have a harmonious convergence of positive energy for this person. and for all the other injured climbers this year, and of course for Preston. It does seem like a lot of accidents so far, but it seems like we say that about every other year. Werk Supp has not changed. It's on my standard afternoon circuit and I do it about twice a week. I agree that a major issue is that it has been murder hot lately. No rain. The rock is particularly greasy in eldo right now. I also think that since Werk Supp is so accessible and takes such good gear that people repeat it a lot, like me. After a while you get it dicked, then you start to run it out between pieces until you finally find yourself climbing into ground fall territory all along the route . I do this all the time on various routes that I have dialed, and it's not a good practice. Sometimes I'll scare myself a bit and say I'm going to be more conservative, and I am for a while. Obviously that wasn't the issue in this latest event since the climber was soloing, but I think that it is a particular hazard on a route like Werk Supp. Let's hope that this spate of accidents is over. |  |
By Cheryl Claman-Brennan Jul 22, 2008
| I am in shock that another climber was injured on the same route. All I can say is my heart goes out to the climber, his family and friends. This website has been so helpful to me as Preston's wife of 18 years, I hope that it will comfort the man and his family who fell today. |  |
By Gary Stokoe Jul 23, 2008
| Hey, I have a bit of information about the guy on Werk Supp today and giving it to you from CA. I am an old climber from my Boulder days in the 80's and used to live in the canyon. The guys is the brother of a close friend of mine. I shared this post with Randy but will leave it to him to give more in terms of family names and such.
Leave it to say that Mike is a veteran of the sport for more than 30 years. He's a strong and committed climber with 1000's of vertical feet of climbing all over the country and many as a solo climber a year. The fall was profoundly unfortunate and when I spoke to Randy earlier this evening, Mike was in ICU in Denver following surgery. His family were actually meeting for a reunion this weekend and were on their way to CO.
At this time Mike and his family could use our prayers, to give everyone the strength to get through this this tenuous time. I know that if anyone has any specific information from todays fall that the family would appreciate anything that might help them understand. I will continue to check in here and forward what surfaces to Randy.
Again, thanks for the kindness and concerns, it's appreciated. |  |
By Gary Stokoe Jul 23, 2008
| Ok here's the most recent update having just heard from Randy about his brother MIke:
I just talked to Mikes nurse and it is not good. I asked her point blank and she said that if it were her brother she'd be on a plane. So I'm going to be on a plane. He has chest tubes in both sides, is on a respirator, was unresponsive even before sedation, his blood pressure is too low, he had multiple open, compound fractures of both legs, compound fractures of the left arm, multiple major facial fractures, a broken pelvis and several broken ribs. He's so unstable that they couldn't even completely clean or dress his wounds without killing him so she said infection will be a big issue. Rhonda takes care of him 12 hours straight and no one else. She said things are not going in a good direction but she will do her best.
Keep our prayers strong |  |
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