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By Monomaniac
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From Morrison, CO
Jan 13, 2014
Insurrection, 5.14c.  Photo Adam Sanders.

Jon Zucco wrote:
What about having 2x4s run along the top and bottom with a groove or tongue routed out that created a groove when mounted against the back board. You could mount each half on independent 3/4" boards like you mentioned, slim. Then mount those to the sliding boards to make them flush with the 2x4 runners. The two base boards could slide freely within those grooves. You could drill some holes in each 2x4 for a couple hand knobs/screw clamps to hold each board in place when you've gotten the right width. but may be more complicated than it's worth.


That's what I was thinking, except only one hald would slide. You could use a simple carpentry clamp or two to hold the move half in position


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By Monomaniac
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From Morrison, CO
Jan 13, 2014
Insurrection, 5.14c.  Photo Adam Sanders.

Lanky wrote:
You could try a French cleat system with clamps or bolts to lock the boards in place. French cleats are dead simple.


That looks slick. I wonder if the torque on the board would make it pull away from vertical?


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By MJMobes
From The land of steady habits
Jan 14, 2014
modern man

Lanky wrote:
You could try a French cleat system with clamps or bolts to lock the boards in place. French cleats are dead simple.


I've been using this method to hang cabinets for years now and recently even hung a vertical 4'x8' climbing wall for my 3 year old this way as well.

If you make the lower cleat out of a wider board(2x8 instead of 2x4)it would not move a bit


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Jan 14, 2014
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

That French Cleat system looks great. Drawing from that and MJ's specs on lumber size it seems like it would be very solid. The top cleat is a 2x4 cut at a 30 to 45 degree angle. The bottom cleat has a matching and opposite angle, and is 2x8. Mounting each cleat to it's respective board with bolts would make it super solid. The back board adds a more solid surface for the top cleat to rest against than a wall.


French Cleat Sliding Mounts (probably overkill on the bolts for the bottom rail)
French Cleat Sliding Mounts (probably overkill on the bolts for the bottom rail)


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By Nate Reno
From Highlands Ranch, CO
Jan 14, 2014
Ellingwood Point Summit, Little Bear in the background.

Don't do it. Your girl already has way better technique from climbing the same stuff w/ way less strength.
Get her on the hangboard and she'll be warming up on your projects in a matter of months, then be out the door and shackin' up w/ the first hardman she finds.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Jan 14, 2014
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

haha, I doubt it. She probably won't even use it...


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jan 14, 2014
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

Jon Zucco wrote:
That French Cleat system looks great. Drawing from that and MJ's specs on lumber size it seems like it would be very solid. The top cleat is a 2x4 cut at a 30 to 45 degree angle. The bottom cleat has a matching and opposite angle, and is 2x8. Mounting each cleat to it's respective board with bolts would make it super solid. The back board adds a more solid surface for the top cleat to rest against than a wall.


Nice Jon. You could also drill like a 1/2 hold through the surface and both cleats and insert a dowel. You could have several holes in the wall-mounted cleat- for different spaces between the two pieces. One of the halves would stay fixed, and the other would be adjustable. Put a ring in the end of the dowel, and you have an easy pull-pin. Pull the dowel/pin out, slide down to the next hole, and reinsert the pin.

Just make the back cleat a continuous piece. Something like this:


maybe?
maybe?


And Mr. Anderson, congrats on making what appears to be a very intuitive, diverse and useful training device. If you happen to put any of these mounting systems in production, I'll not require any sort of credit or royalties, trademarks or what have you. A one time fee of a free RPTC is all that I shall require.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Jan 14, 2014
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

Nice. I like it.

Yes, the bottom cleat would be a continuous rail. The dowel pins would be a good easy way to prevent lateral motion during the session. If I build this out though, I'd probably leave both boards free floating instead one fixed, as this is going to fit over a door way. I'd rather keep both halves centered regardless of the width.

Leaving both boards free floating and the bottom cleat rail semi-permanent would also allow switching out hangboards if one were so inclined.


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By slim
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Jan 14, 2014
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.

Jon Zucco wrote:
haha, I doubt it. She probably won't even use it...


i think he was talking to me :(


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Jan 27, 2014
At the BRC

The Spot just installed a RPTC board on a track. It's super easy to adjust the width and seems plenty stable.

RPTC at the Spot
RPTC at the Spot


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By GhaMby
From Heaven
Jan 27, 2014

Mark E Dixon wrote:
The Spot just installed a RPTC board on a track. It's super easy to adjust the width and seems plenty stable.


Mark,

What is on the back side of the moving board? thin piece of plywood???

Does it freely slide and just rely on friction to keep it in place while hangboarding? My guess is if it's set in the right place for your shoulders then it shouldn't be able to slide to the sides (because all the force will be in the down, y, direction).


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Jan 27, 2014
At the BRC

DoesNotCare wrote:
Mark, What is on the back side of the moving board? thin piece of plywood??? Does it freely slide and just rely on friction to keep it in place while hangboarding? My guess is if it's set in the right place for your shoulders then it shouldn't be able to slide to the sides (because all the force will be in the down, y, direction).


I'll try to take a closer look next time I'm at the Spot. You might have better luck calling or emailing Jackie, their head setter. I believe this was her inspiration.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Jan 27, 2014
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

that looks great!


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By 419
From Denver
Jan 31, 2014
JR Token

Do eye bolts consistently distribute a load?
Is the "Rock Prodigy" pulley kit that is recommended an up sell or necessity?
I'm leaning towards the former.

Seriously, great branding, very well deserved. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is buying from Trango for the first time. I'm glad the Anderson Brothers found a bigger market.

Jonathan


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By slim
Administrator
Jan 31, 2014
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.

whether it be an upsell, or a pulley and eye bolt from the hardware store, it is pretty much essential for effective HB workouts.


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By jarthur
From Westminster, CO
Jan 31, 2014
My dogs got ups yo!

I bought (2) eyebolts and (2) pulleys from Home Depot for about $5 and they work perfect. If you dig through Mark's website he says if you want to spend some cash purchase the Trango setup, if not just head to the local hardware store. I didn't get the impression of an upsell at all.


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By SteveZ
From Denver, CO
Feb 4, 2014
Lion King with the pup.

I used my new board for the first time the other day and would echo everyone else that it's great.

I tried using the small hateful square crimp...mercy! Super realistic though which is awesome. Perfect for all the vertical crimpfests on the front range here. I just need to buy more weight to take off or get stronger before I can touch them again.

Awesome texture on this thing and the pockets are comfy.

Very excited for the book coming out soon too.


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By Mark Paulson
Feb 4, 2014

SteveZ wrote:
I tried using the small hateful square crimp...mercy! Super realistic though which is awesome. Perfect for all the vertical crimpfests on the front range here. I just need to buy more weight to take off or get stronger before I can touch them again.


You're not alone- I had to go -50lbs to use the crimp at first.


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Feb 13, 2014
At the BRC

The BRC now has an RPTC board too. Not moveable, mounted with the halves 3.5 inches apart. It's in the upstairs training area.


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By slim
Administrator
Feb 14, 2014
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.

3.5 inches will be way too close together for most folks, unless you are about 4 feet tall with a negative ape index. its kind of a bummer that they aren't setting it up to use one of the most important features.


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By Josh Janes
Feb 14, 2014

Its entirely possible that they are indeed targeting people who are four feet tall.


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By reboot
From Westminster, CO
Feb 14, 2014

I don't know who set it up, but I'm sure it can be lobbied to have the spacing changed. Which are the most important features?


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By slim
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Feb 14, 2014
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.

i think one of the most important features is the ability to adjust how far apart the holds are. i think you had a DRCC V5.12 (me too). using the holds in the middle of the board was almost impossible for me. too small and too close together, my hands just fought over real estate. rough on shoulders and elbows as well.


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By reboot
From Westminster, CO
Feb 17, 2014

Tried out the RPTC at BRC today. A few of us were there & we agreed 3.5" spacing is probably too close (not so much for the pinch). There's room to widen it a few inches (the right pinch won't be completely backed by plywood, but the outermost screw hole will still be weight bearing. Making it adjustable may be a bit harder since there are already 4 fingerboards & various wooden rungs/slopers in the weight room. Stay tuned.

The finger pockets are definitely much more friendly than any plastic boards I've used. I'd definitely train on it if plastic is my only option, but I still like wood better. The sloper, at least with the initial texture of the board, is a bit easy (noticeably easier than the 35 degree sloper on the Beastmakers, which is easier than lower of the 2 big wooden slopers in the room). The pinch was already well chalked up & I gather is pretty popular, since the only other pinch on all of the hangboards is pretty easy. I kept giving friends shit for hooking the top of the fingers over the pinch, but I guess that can be used for progression if you can't pinch it yet. I can't hang off the narrower pinch, but it's nice to have the option. As for the crimps, I only tried the smallest one, hanging open handed with 3 fingers for 15 sec...and it hurts, a lot more than the smallest "crimp" on my Beastmaker 2000, but the latter is a bit easier. I guess if you want to train small holds, it's gonna hurt no matter what. I kind of like the idea of training less fingers on slightly larger holds.

If you are only allowed one training apparatus, this should be it. It is more complete than any hangboard on the market (that I've tried). The 2 slots with graduated depth would be great for progression. It gets a bit murkier if you have the option of added weights, pulley & supplemental holds. The Beastmaker 2000 has superior slopers (& a few ways to progress between the slopers without involving weights), but does not have pinches (at least in ways that'll stress the thumb enough). If you have weights though, I think picking up weights hanging off of a block of 4x4 (or 2x4 for narrow pinch) is more adjustable than hangboard pinches. Because of the split design, the RPTC is not as versatile for training one arm hangs (no doubt made popular by Chris Webb Parsons' video, but I think is a good training tool & quite different from 2 arm hangs), but a few holds bolted between the 2 halves will address this. For a lot of people, I think this will be the best option (I'm considering buying this for oversea friends that don't have easy gym access), even if it may not be the best for my current situation.


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By Monomaniac
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From Morrison, CO
Apr 23, 2014
Insurrection, 5.14c.  Photo Adam Sanders.

For those interested, I finally got around to building an adjustable mount for my RPTC, based on the French Cleat idea suggested on this thread. Here's a short video of the rig in action:


youtu.be/BnEobt_C1kU


You can read a tutorial/trip report about the project here


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