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By Optimistic
From New Paltz
Feb 19, 2014

Ok, let's make sure that this thread is as dull and distant from the ethos of climbing as possible, by adding a discussion of computers to it!

When people mention the videos, is the setup most of you use to just use a normal dvd and monitor the workout using a speedometer (and "cadence-ometer") on your bike? Or do many of you use a setup that links to a computer to log and coach the workouts that way? If you do the latter, how do you do it? I'm fairly tech-aware, but this is totally unknown territory for me so I feel like I could spend a lot of money on something that was wrong or obsolete or whatever.


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By Adam Leedy
From Austin, TX
Feb 19, 2014

Optimistic wrote:
Ok, let's make sure that this thread is as dull and distant from the ethos of climbing as possible, by adding a discussion of computers to it! When people mention the videos, is the setup most of you use to just use a normal dvd and monitor the workout using a speedometer (and "cadence-ometer") on your bike? Or do many of you use a setup that links to a computer to log and coach the workouts that way? If you do the latter, how do you do it? I'm fairly tech-aware, but this is totally unknown territory for me so I feel like I could spend a lot of money on something that was wrong or obsolete or whatever.



I do the latter.
Bluetooth speed and cadence sensor + bluetooth HR monitor (both from wahoo fitness)
Linked to trainer road app on my macbook pro.

drop in a sufferfest video

BAM!


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By Optimistic
From New Paltz
Feb 19, 2014

Adam Leedy wrote:
I do the latter. Bluetooth speed and cadence sensor + bluetooth HR monitor (both from wahoo fitness) Linked to trainer road app on my macbook pro. drop in a sufferfest video BAM!


What is your trainer? A Wahoo also?

I decided to take the plunge on a Bkool trainer...a good bit cheaper, hopefully I won't regret that! Still claims to have a lot of the video simulation features. Doesn't connect to trainerroad at this point, I guess they have their own version of that.


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By Eric Chabot
From Thetford Ctr, VT
Feb 19, 2014

I've been hitting up a local (non-climbing) gym that has sweet stationary bikes with a video-game aspect...there's a screen in front where you see a 1st-person view with different tracks/backgrounds to ride, other cyclists around you. Kinda fun.

I've been having hip issues and the cycling helps for sure.


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By Andy Laakmann
Site Landlord
From Bend, OR
Feb 19, 2014
Racked and loaded... name that splitter behind me? Hint, its on Supercrack Buttress

ipad + various tv series.

Dexter
Breaking Bad
Game of Thrones
Walking Dead
etc. etc. etc.

A life time of binge watching while spinning away.


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By John Farrell
From Phoenix, AZ
Feb 19, 2014
Chilling on Moby Dick, Cochise Stronghold.

Like mentioned above, Rollers and a movie... It takes a while to get used to them, so you'll be afraid for a bit to stop pedaling. If you want something more stable, a trainer works too.

Hmm, I watched Sons of Anarchy, Dexter, Homeland.

I had a power sensor from Polar on my bike when I rode. In the end game, it's all about sustainable power.

John...


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By Fat Dad
From Los Angeles, CA
Feb 19, 2014

The only time I ever rode and watched the tube was when I was single, and even then I never really rode for more than an hour. I've always preferred shorter harder sessions than long spins on the trainer. Just too boring, makes my ass hurt too much and not nearly effective as a solid 45-60 minute with max intervals laced throughout. Granted, I've always lived in So Cal, so weather has never been that much of an impediment. However, a wind trainer has always been just a way of maintaining fitness and pedaling technique, not a way to substitute the same amount of time I would otherwise spend on the bike if weather wasn't an issue.


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By Ryan Kempf
From Boulder, CO
Feb 19, 2014
Ryan on the Sharks Fin wishing he was on Mt. Whiteny.

^^^ Haha I've been tearing through Son's of Anarchy too! Ive only been allowing myself to watch the Olympics while on the bike, helps to motivate me. I don't train using speed, only cadence and heart rate. Speed means almost nothing on a trainer, you're either training mapping power or heart rate. If using heart rate remember that you will see "heart rate drift."

I like to use interval based workouts, seem to break up the monotony of spinning. If your trying to log miles a trainer is NOT the business, it's hard for me to log much more than an hour, so incredibly boring. I prefer to do my multi-hour rides outside.


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By KathyS
From Poughkeepsie, NY
Feb 19, 2014
Me at the summit of Inner Course (5.4) in the Outlets.  Long, lovely, mellow route.  Well protected even.  My favorite lead from the trip.

My local bike shop does a trainer night once a week. BYOB, and they provide the trainers. They have a TV and show a different training video every week. Usually draws about a dozen folks. I find it much easier to suffer with company, and do longer, harder workouts there than if left to myself. For knee rehab, keep the gear low and the rpms up. Cycling is good for knees as long as you don't try to push too big a gear.

Shop Craigslist for a trainer. Lots of folks by one and never use it. Get a trainer that holds your bike by the rear axle if you just want a workout. Rollers have a learning curve, though they will teach you balance. They will also punish you for not paying attention.

Last tip: Get one, or better yet, two fans. Point one at your head, and one at your legs/torso. It's easy to overheat riding a trainer. Your heart rate will go up, but you won't be training effectively. That will just be your body trying desperately to dump body heat to keep you from burning up.


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By MC Poopypants
Feb 19, 2014
Dropping a deuce

Over grown children need a sippy cup and constant distraction. Maybe a different type of training would be more valuable.


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By Adam Leedy
From Austin, TX
Feb 19, 2014

Optimistic wrote:
What is your trainer? A Wahoo also? I decided to take the plunge on a Bkool trainer...a good bit cheaper, hopefully I won't regret that! Still claims to have a lot of the video simulation features. Doesn't connect to trainerroad at this point, I guess they have their own version of that.



I use a set of Tacx rollers


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By Just Solo
From Colorado Springs
Feb 19, 2014

I use these:

www.sportcrafters.com/products/bike-rollers/cadence-rollers

And a Kinetic trainer. The suggestion of a fan is a great one. A must for long sufferfests.


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By Optimistic
From New Paltz
Feb 20, 2014

Adam Leedy wrote:
I do the latter. Bluetooth speed and cadence sensor + bluetooth HR monitor (both from wahoo fitness) Linked to trainer road app on my macbook pro. drop in a sufferfest video BAM!

Any particular recommended Sufferfest? I see that there is one, ridiculously called Violator, which focuses on sprinting, which would seem to be the best fit for interval training, but I know nothing about all this. These vids are kind of the bicyclists version of crossfit, I take it? :)


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By Optimistic
From New Paltz
Feb 22, 2014

Optimistic wrote:
Any particular recommended Sufferfest? I see that there is one, ridiculously called Violator, which focuses on sprinting, which would seem to be the best fit for interval training, but I know nothing about all this. These vids are kind of the bicyclists version of crossfit, I take it? :)


Just a bump to see if anyone has a suggestion on a recommended "starter" title from the Sufferfests... Training goal is mainly weight loss.


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By DanielRich
Feb 24, 2014

Optimistic wrote:
Just a bump to see if anyone has a suggestion on a recommended "starter" title from the Sufferfests... Training goal is mainly weight loss.


Hey I have all of the sufferfest videos and I do like the violator but to be honest my favorite is "there is no try". If you are only getting one of the videos that is the one I would recommend it has a good variety of short and long hard efforts and I just find I enjoy it more than the others.

The violator is really really short sprints and alot of them. Unless you are training to win the final sprint at a criterium and really want to pack muscle and power on the legs I like some of the others better.(Don't get me wrong I do like that one and I do want to win my local crit race so I do still ride violator often.)


that is my 2c


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By Optimistic
From New Paltz
Feb 24, 2014

DanielRich wrote:
Hey I have all of the sufferfest videos and I do like the violator but to be honest my favorite is "there is no try". If you are only getting one of the videos that is the one I would recommend it has a good variety of short and long hard efforts and I just find I enjoy it more than the others. The violator is really really short sprints and alot of them. Unless you are training to win the final sprint at a criterium and really want to pack muscle and power on the legs I like some of the others better.(Don't get me wrong I do like that one and I do want to win my local crit race so I do still ride violator often.) that is my 2c


Thanks Daniel! Plus, "there is no try" is one of my favorite movie references, so how could it be bad?


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