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By Joe Huggins
From Grand Junction
Apr 8, 2012
mmmm....tree
Christian wrote:
Tenets

Maybe his beliefs are occupied by renters?

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By kBobby
From Spokane, WA
Apr 8, 2012
Joe Huggins wrote:
Maybe his beliefs are occupied by renters?

I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.

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By Jon O'Brien
From Nevada
Apr 8, 2012
I love vitamin d 600-1000iu a day, helps combat a natural seasonal affect from lack of sun in winter, try it!

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By Christian
From Casa do Cacete
Apr 8, 2012
Mistah Kurtz
kBobby wrote:
I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.


Lol! Read your leases carefully kiddywinks...

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By matt davies
Apr 8, 2012
Joe Huggins wrote:
Yeah, I hear ya; but for me, the perfect cup is an aged Celebes(Sulawesi)or Sumatra roasted Full City and made in a French Press with a ridiculous amount of product. That's just me,I ben' abusin' fur a wiyl... EDIT-In Eldo, there's a famous route from the '80s;"Coffee Break With Joe"...I'm the Joe

... and a connoisseur to boot!

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By € $t0& 960 €ฎ
From Colorado
Apr 8, 2012
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Im never tired...only after waking up grumpy at 3pm after a night shift. I think all tiredness is in cortisol levels...and you have to hydrate enough. Just my opinion
p.s. my dad is back from Africa so he will be posting now. Don't blow my cover please.

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By Joe Huggins
From Grand Junction
Apr 8, 2012
mmmm....tree
kBobby wrote:
I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.

Thanks for catching that and running with it. Remember-together, we can make jokes!

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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Apr 9, 2012
Middle
Mitch Zimmerman wrote:
Im never tired...only after waking up grumpy at 3pm after a night shift. I think all tiredness is in cortisol levels...and you have to hydrate enough. Just my opinion p.s. my dad is back from Africa so he will be posting now. Don't blow my cover please.




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By € $t0& 960 €ฎ
From Colorado
Apr 9, 2012
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this works too
this works too

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By Peter Stokes
From Them Thar Hills
Apr 9, 2012
Wall Street, Moab, UT
kBobby wrote:
I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.


I never violate my tenants before noon

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By Joe Huggins
From Grand Junction
Apr 9, 2012
mmmm....tree
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That was FA! (fucking awesome)

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Apr 9, 2012
Bocan
I suffer from the same thing and at 37 I don't think it's normal either. I mentioned it to the doctor the other day and he was mildly dimisive about it, so for the momement I'm trying more of a lifestyle change.

Quitting caffeine is a great idea, as I'm kind of stuck in that cycle as well. Not as much as the OP, but yeah 2 cups of coffee and a double rockstar. I've recently started Valerian root to help me sleep, and it seems to work. Stinks really bad and sometimes I get odd dreams but I sleep deeper.

Also "trying" to reduce stress. I eat pretty healthy as well and work out / exercise 5-7 days a week, but I think I might lean more to the vegan side of things and massively reduce my alcohol intake (sadly).

We'll see how this all goes, if not back to the doctor. But yeah guessing why is just throwing a dart over your shoulder. It could be anything, from simple allergies to a real issue.

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By Jeremy Hand
Apr 10, 2012
slopey
I appreciate every response and will go through the last couple of pages and respond. I haven't been to the doc yet. Get off my back. I'm also thinking it most likely is a thyroid problem but I've been having a couple of other symptoms the past couple days. If I die I'll let you know by not responding.

Also I'm going to start running daily and pick up some more of my Green Vibrance next paycheck. I'm trying to cut back on the caffeine and don't drink any already past noon or so. Running early in the morning is a possibility but I doubt I am going to get up at 4 or so to do it. But I'll give it a try.

JLP wrote:
I'm always stoned. I started smoking a ton of weed a few weeks back, but I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. Can someone help me?


You, sir, are an idiot. Please stop trolling.

Aerili wrote:
I am totally fine with mother earth taking back you and only you. My problem is that when your non-vaccinated ass comes down with tuberculosis, mumps, typhoid, yellow fever, or things like that, you take other people with you.


I always have a question for people who bring up claims like this... if you're vaccinated and I'm not vaccinated and I contract some disease that you've been vaccinated for... why would you contract it? Isn't that proof that vaccinations are not beneficial to your health and only put yourself at risk to adverse side affects?
That makes no sense.

Also Why would ANYONE want the HPV vaccine? Go look up how many children have either died or had crazy side affects.

The FDA is in bed with the pharmaceutical business... go look at how many of the FDA board members used to work for pharm corporations... that is why it takes them 6 years to pull a drug off the shelves that has killed people from the start.

Dexter you need to stop flaming people about ignorance and read up some yourself. You're mention to psych meds is clearly evidence of your lack of knowledge on the subject. Anti depressants have been shown to be no more effective than a placebo. Psychotropic are prescribed for everything and to everyone now. We'll all be amazed to find out what they say in the new DSM that they're printing next year. If a child shows too much energy, short attention span, or anything of that sort they'll be prescribed drugs. Are you sad that your parents just died in a horrific car accident? You're obviously in the need of some xanax and zoloft. Modern western science has MANY benefits and has made medicine exponentially better but at this point in time all pharmaceuticals, especially in the U.S., are for profit.

Joe Huggins wrote:
I was feeling progressively crappier for years. Finally went to the doc; she sent me to the endocrinologist. Turns out I have an autoimmune disease-"polyendocrinopathy", (say it three times, fast). Now, I take drugs to treat it-feel pretty good. Fucking know it all doctors!


Thanks for your response! I'm hoping that it is nothing serious and I'm wishing the best to you and thank lord they have those drugs for you; some things just can't be treated without prescriptions.

wankel7 wrote:
WTF dude...that is an insane amount of caffeine. You have two problems to solve. The being tired one and your unhealthy addiction to caffeine. Just wondering...when you stand up after sitting for a while do you feel light headed?


I typically don't drink that much lol. And no, I haven't experienced any light headedness in quite some time. I used to when I was younger and I mentioned it to the doctor and he said it was normal for people my age to do that, something about constricted blood flow from sitting with bent knees and the rush to your head when standing quickly.

I do take FUKITALL on occasion... more so when climbing. You can always tell because I'm not afraid of the highballs anymore or the soloing. Gotta love that stuff!

So to kinda recap and clarify a bit.

I don't typically take psychotropic drugs and I don't get drunk but on a rare occasion. I do not smoke weed. I occasionally take a drag from a cigarette or a dip so nicotine levels shouldn't be the issue. I am going to start running daily so that I get better circulation and consistent exercise. I'm going to lay off hard training for a bit (hopefully!). I do not have a problem sleeping a 'full-night' or going to sleep and typically sleep 7+ hours. If I stand in one spot or sit for a few minutes I begin yawning constantly and feel drowsy. I'm going to restart my vitamin regiment and get back on my Green Vibrance powder (YUM). It could be stress/depression related as I do lean more toward the introvert and will overthink a lot of things but at the same time this is the happiest time in my life as I've recently (within the past year) found my soulmate (so cheesy sounding). I appreciate everyone's response, even if it was a troll, and always appreciate a good debate. I'm thinking its a thyroid problem.
If anyone has anymore questions or anything else to say feel free to continue the dialogue! I hope everyone had a great weekend and Easter.
Holla holla

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By € $t0& 960 €ฎ
From Colorado
Apr 10, 2012
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I highly doubt its thyroid do you have other symptoms: wt gain heart palpitations. I am not diagnosing but low thyroid is affecting women past 40 yo who had kids and you are neither. Psychotropics and antidepressants can do wonders when prescribed and taken as directed so do benzos. Your age is when most psych illnesses get diagnosed. Not trying to scare you but go see a doc honestly. Hope its not MS or Lupus but the sooner you get on meds in either case the better off your chances are at going into remission. Best of luck!

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Apr 10, 2012
Bocan
One thing I've noticed with my own body too is that I need to go to bed at a "certain" time. If I go to bed at 10 I feel much better, but if I push it to lets say 10:30 it's harder for me to fall asleep. The key is finding out what time is for you.

Also my doc recommended no reading (he does it though) or watching TV in bed. The logic behind this is to train your mind and body to know when you go to bed it's for sleeping, and not for chilling.

Basically nothing in the bed besides sleep and magic making.

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By € $t0& 960 €ฎ
From Colorado
Apr 10, 2012
s
Scott McMahon wrote:
One thing I've noticed with my own body too is that I need to go to bed at a "certain" time. If I go to bed at 10 I feel much better, but if I push it to lets say 10:30 it's harder for me to fall asleep. The key is finding out what time is for you. Also my doc recommended no reading (he does it though) or watching TV in bed. The logic behind this is to train your mind and body to know when you go to bed it's for sleeping, and not for chilling. Basically nothing in the bed besides sleep and magic making.

The kid is 21 yo! Common! Its a hint if depression I say especially after reading his last post he is too lean to have a sleep apnea. The advice you got is geared towards middle aged group.

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By AJS
From Boulder, CO
Apr 10, 2012
In the sea of Cortez - Baja California, Mexico
Jeremy Hand wrote:
Also Why would ANYONE want the HPV vaccine? Go look up how many children have either died or had crazy side affects. The FDA is in bed with the pharmaceutical business...


Not sure where you got that information, but wikipedia seems to think the opposite: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vacc...

As to your question about vaccines:
A lot of the things we get vaccinated for affect children much more strongly than adults (often leading to death). A good example is whooping cough (pertusis). If you get that as an adult, it's not horrible, but if a child gets it then it's bad news. And, that leads to the problem with not getting vaccinated yourself -- if you have it, it's no big deal, but you could easily pass it on to a child who isn't vaccinated yet.

I'm all for not taking lots of drugs that affect the central nervous system -- you mentioned for example, Xanex and Prozac -- but really vaccines definitely fall into the 'some things can't be treated without prescriptions' category. I think with a bit more research you'd agree.

Cheers.

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By € $t0& 960 €ฎ
From Colorado
Apr 10, 2012
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HPV vaccine is a hoax! Do you know how many strands of that virus there are? Its everywhere and mutates constantly. Its your immune system. I saw a show about a man who had warts all over his body caused by HPV because of a genetic immune disease. Btw most cases of positive HPV go away by themselves and cause unnecessary procedures. Cervical cancer can be caused by HPV but im sure there is more than just the virus present. In your case being a male your chances of getting a cervical cancer are next to nill

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By Jeremy Hand
Apr 10, 2012
slopey
AJS wrote:
Not sure where you got that information, but wikipedia seems to think the opposite: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vacc... As to your question about vaccines: A lot of the things we get vaccinated for affect children much more strongly than adults (often leading to death). A good example is whooping cough (pertusis). If you get that as an adult, it's not horrible, but if a child gets it then it's bad news. And, that leads to the problem with not getting vaccinated yourself -- if you have it, it's no big deal, but you could easily pass it on to a child who isn't vaccinated yet. I'm all for not taking lots of drugs that affect the central nervous system -- you mentioned for example, Xanex and Prozac -- but really vaccines definitely fall into the 'some things can't be treated without prescriptions' category. I think with a bit more research you'd agree. Cheers.


sanevax.org/vaers-hpv-vaccine-...

cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccines...

VAERS is where people go to report adverse reactions from vaccines to the cdc... I'll trust it more so than wikipedia. And from your post I'm going to assume(gosh I hate doing this) that you've never heard of VAERS. Many people haven't so just think about how many cases go unreported or doctors don't correlate with the vaccination... :\

Earlier developed vaccinations seemed to be a lot safer, the new stuff is just an easy way for pharma to mass produce and administer something... think about how much of the monies is made from a nation wide vaccination. Not all vaccinations are bad, not all pharmaceuticals are bad, but everything is about money; plenty of people(majority?) in this country will do anything for that almighty dollar, whether it may be deemed moral or not.

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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Apr 10, 2012
Get off the caffeine, yes. But from personal experience, I'd advise a very gradual taper.

I did a cold turkey from a regular, daily level of caffeine slightly larger than your 7 cups + 5hr. Raging headaches, all over bodyache, nausea, sweating...kinda like the flu but worse and without stomach issues. 3 days of this, laying on the couch, miserable and unable to function.

Quitting caffeine was the best decision I ever made from a health/diet standpoint. I immediately slept better than ever before, wake up feeling refreshed, etc. Also, try to keep a regular sleep schedule. After too many years of college, grad school etc, I was used to going out on weekends, staying up way later than the weekdays, then sleeping in.

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By Jeremy Hand
Apr 10, 2012
slopey
Will S wrote:
Get off the caffeine, yes. But from personal experience, I'd advise a very gradual taper. I did a cold turkey from a regular, daily level of caffeine slightly larger than your 7 cups + 5hr. Raging headaches, all over bodyache, nausea, sweating...kinda like the flu but worse and without stomach issues. 3 days of this, laying on the couch, miserable and unable to function. Quitting caffeine was the best decision I ever made from a health/diet standpoint. I immediately slept better than ever before, wake up feeling refreshed, etc. Also, try to keep a regular sleep schedule. After too many years of college, grad school etc, I was used to going out on weekends, staying up way later than the weekdays, then sleeping in.


Sounds brutal man! Yeah my caffeine intake isn't typically that high but I'd say 2-3 cups has become a good daily average. I'm trying to taper off and some days I don't even need it. I appreciate your response, take it easy.

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By APBT1976
Apr 10, 2012
Black Dike 12/25/11
Will S wrote:
Get off the caffeine, yes. But from personal experience, I'd advise a very gradual taper. I did a cold turkey from a regular, daily level of caffeine slightly larger than your 7 cups + 5hr. Raging headaches, all over bodyache, nausea, sweating...kinda like the flu but worse and without stomach issues. 3 days of this, laying on the couch, miserable and unable to function. Quitting caffeine was the best decision I ever made from a health/diet standpoint. I immediately slept better than ever before, wake up feeling refreshed, etc. Also, try to keep a regular sleep schedule. After too many years of college, grad school etc, I was used to going out on weekends, staying up way later than the weekdays, then sleeping in.


Best advice ever!

I have given up the evil heavenly bean more than once for moths on end. Everything the poster above claims is 110% true.

I think it is about time for me give up the bean again myself. Do it over a weeks time though. Start by cutting your intake in half for a two or three days then go to one cup a day for a week then just stop.

I think it may be time to do the 2 week apple juice psyllium husk cleans followed by giving up any processed food/caffein/alcohol/refined sugar till winter rolls around and the extra lbs keep you warm on the ice.

Worst two weeks of your life but you feel so good when it s done. And the shit that comes outa your body scares you enough that it seems like how could i have allowed that stuff in me in the first place. And i never wanna put anything in me that makes that again...

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By APBT1976
Apr 10, 2012
Black Dike 12/25/11
P.S.

This advice comes from a guy that just drank a full french press and a half of rocket fuel and has been every day all dam winter..

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By AJS
From Boulder, CO
Apr 10, 2012
In the sea of Cortez - Baja California, Mexico


Did you read my link or either of those before responding?

From my link:
"...more than 26 million doses distributed in the United States, and there have been 15,037 Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reports following the vaccination." and then is goes on to summarize exactly what your two links say. So, gosh, I *had* heard of VARES before posting. By the way, 15k 'events' in 26,000,000 -- that's a rate of 0.05%.

In case you're too tired to go back and clink on my link I'll quote it for you: "None of the 27 confirmed deaths of women and girls who had taken the vaccine were linked to the vaccine. Guillain-Barr้ Syndrome (GBS), a rare disorder that causes muscle weakness, has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil. There is no evidence suggesting that Gardasil causes or raises the risk of GBS. Additionally, there have been rare reports of blood clots forming in the heart, lungs and legs.
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According to the Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the FDA, the rate of adverse side effects related to Gardasil immunization in the safety review were consistent with what has been seen in the safety studies carried out before the vaccine was approved and were similar to those seen with other vaccines. However, a higher proportion of syncope (fainting) and venous thrombolic events (blood clots) were seen with Gardasil than are usually seen with other vaccines. The FDA and CDC have reminded health care providers that, to prevent falls and injuries, all vaccine recipients should remain seated or lying down and be closely observed for 15 minutes after vaccination"
Which is exactly what your links said.

It even addresses your comment 'earlier developed vaccines seemed to be a lot safer'. They're not -- they're the same.

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By k. riemondy
From Boulder, Co
Apr 10, 2012
Jeremy Hand wrote:
I always have a question for people who bring up claims like this... if you're vaccinated and I'm not vaccinated and I contract some disease that you've been vaccinated for... why would you contract it? Isn't that proof that vaccinations are not beneficial to your health and only put yourself at risk to adverse side affects?


If you are unvaccinated and are harboring an infection you can transmit that to another person who is unvaccinated or unable to mount a proper immune response. Children, who are not yet vaccinated would be susceptible to your infections. Immunocompromised individuals, such as AIDS patient or people on immunosuppressive therapies, could also be susceptible. However, a healthy vaccinated adult, will be unlikely to get infected.

If you don't vaccinate you put others susceptible populations at risk of infections. Also by not vaccinating, the number of infectious agents is increased in the population, which can increase the likelihood of the development of resistance to the vaccine or standard drug treatment regime. The choice to vaccinate is not simply a personal decision.

The amount of disinformation on this thread is frightening. The HPV vaccine is the first vaccine that we have that can prevent cancer. This is a landmark vaccine.

There are numerous genotypes of HPV (not strains) yet only few of them are associated with anogenital cancers. Most HPV infections are benign and cleared by the immune system. However, less than 1% of these infections can persist and contribute to the development of cervical cancer. HPV infection is considered to be required but not sufficient for cervical cancer. Other genetic and environmental factors probably contribute to the progression of the cancer, but by preventing HPV infection, you can prevent or greatly reduce the incidence of the cancer.

While it is true that papillomaviruses genomes can mutate constantly (as all organisms do...), these viruses have an extremely low mutation rate, that is probably very similar to the mutation rate in human cells. This is in stark contrast to a virus such as HIV, which has a mutation rate that is so high that drug therapies become ineffective in an individual in a matter of months.

The two available vaccines protect against the most commonly found HPV types that cause anogenital cancers. Second generation vaccines are being developed that are aimed at provide broadly protective responses against other HPV types that are also associated with cancers.

HPV DNA is also found in ~25% of head and neck cancers, so vaccination for males is a good idea. In addition, by reducing the number of infected individuals, the number of new HPV infections will be reduced. If you care about the health of women, you should also get your sons vaccinated. As the vaccine only can protect against new infections, not existing infections, and therefore must be administered before sexual activity.

These vaccines are also safe. The peer-reviewed literature and clinical trial data clearly demonstrated safety. VAERS is a great website for the cdc to monitor potential adverse reactions to these vaccines, but you have to understand the limits of this data set. The VAERS website is not a controlled study. However, any abnormal trends in the reporting can be followed up with properly controlled epidemiological studies to identify subpopulations or risk factors that may result in adverse responses to the vaccine.

It is also absurd and very offensive to suggest that basic science researchers, clinicians, biotech companies, the CDC, and the FDA are all in some conspiracy to distribute a potentially lethal vaccine. A much simpler explanation is that these agencies, doctors, and researchers are instead working as hard as possible to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine to prevent cancer.

::Good luck with the diagnosis, Jeremy::

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