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By Tradster
From Phoenix, AZ
Jun 11, 2014
dan zika wrote:
It the other states that are going off on the poor colorado tags! Cops are profiling the shit out of coloradoans that I dont want to set foot in utah again the way it is now. I dont want to change my license plates its so bad! Nebraska,Idaho,Illinoise,oh yeah not to mention AZ& NV the cops zero in on green plates! Old folks are even complaining on the local news shows about getting searched for no cause. BTW I have wyo plates. Thats whats up!!



The definition of Catch 22. Legal= extra enforcement!

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By The Original Bill J
Jun 11, 2014
dan zika wrote:
It the other states that are going off on the poor colorado tags! Cops are profiling the shit out of coloradoans that I dont want to set foot in utah again the way it is now. I dont want to change my license plates its so bad! Nebraska,Idaho,Illinoise,oh yeah not to mention AZ& NV the cops zero in on green plates! Old folks are even complaining on the local news shows about getting searched for no cause. BTW I have wyo plates. Thats whats up!!



hmmmm.... not totally sure how much more "profiling" is going on in regards to Utah cops discriminating against CO tags more than they have in the past-- they have been doing it for years. I live in carbondale and spend a lot of time in Utah - mostly baked - never been hassled; or maybe i just don't remember. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that its not any different than before. (always avoid NV cops)

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By good pro
Jun 11, 2014
What's next, meth at the crags?

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By nicelegs
From Denver
Jun 11, 2014
good pro wrote:
What's next, meth at the crags?


Only if it's retro day.

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By The Original Bill J
Jun 11, 2014
good pro wrote:
What's next, meth at the crags?


Unfortunately thats the next logical step since most pot takers are bound to eventually end up with meth addictions (just part of the pot taking process)

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By Rick Blair
From Denver
Jun 11, 2014
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Spencer, lot of smart ass answers here. Honestly, nothing has changed. I have never been able to relate to pot-heads and find them somewhat obnoxious but basically harmless. They still are.

I voted for legalization in Denver, I voted for it when it came up in Colorado. I would be nervous about having a weed establishment near my house however, due to banking laws they are all cash and it is only a matter of time before they start being taken down regulary in armed robberies. Someone needs to fix that.

But if you visited Colorado 2 years ago and then today, you wouldn't notice much changed. Population growth is our biggest adjustment.

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By Bob Dobalina
Jun 15, 2014
good pro wrote:
What's next, meth at the crags?

How about you STFU good pro. If you don't like pot, don't smoke it!
Quit trying to lecture us. We are all adults here. And we like the feeling of having personal freedoms.

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By nicelegs
From Denver
Jun 15, 2014
Bob Dobalina wrote:
How about you STFU good pro. If you don't like pot, don't smoke it! Quit trying to lecture us. We are all adults here. And we like the feeling of having personal freedoms.


Zealots don't want to change your mind. They only want to scream their opinion.

The meth at crags thing is funny to me for 2 reasons. One, it sounds outlandish and crazy and two, I personally know more people than I can on one hand who have used meth while climbing. It was more in fashion in the late 80's and early 90's. It probably doesn't happen anymore with prescription amphetamines being fairly easy to come by.

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By iceman777
From Colorado Springs
Jun 15, 2014
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The only thing I've noticed is a proliferation of slow assed drivers , I really don't give two shits who smokes, shoots or snorts whatever , that is until I'm driving behind some stoned idiot . Nothing pisses me off more then finally getting around some slow assed driver only to discover it's not a 85 year old man or woman who can hardly see over the dash or even an ancient oriental person , just some twenty- thirty something dipshit stoner !

Other then that blaze away I say !

Oh btw I grew up in Humbolt county so go fuck yourself if you think I'm prejudiced towards weed .

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By good pro
Jun 15, 2014
Strong words from not so strong a man
Anyway he has a semi valid point
He fails to recognize that the stoners in colorado can barely move much less drive a vehicle,
Not to mention their addiction to weed de..bilitates there ability to have a job
Where would they be driving to ...
Now that s a question worth

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Jun 16, 2014
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Bob Dobalina wrote:
How about you STFU good pro. If you don't like pot, don't smoke it! Quit trying to lecture us. We are all adults here. And we like the feeling of having personal freedoms.

Nothing like disproving your own point...

And no, OP, nothing has really changed. Adding laws doesn't change human behavior, nor does eliminating them make anyone more righteous.

We've got the same thing we always have had- but less of a stoner lotto, now that it's less of an issue legally. Though public consumption is not legal, most LEO's got the memo - leave them alone.

At some point there will be civil suits, of course, as liability in CO is prima-facia.
I got dropped once in my climbing career. It was by a stoner. I don't give crap if someone smokes, but I won't rope up with someone who has a pipe packed or plans to before the day is done.

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By tom303
From anchorage
Jun 16, 2014
mike h wrote:
There are significantly fewer criminals climbing, which is nice.


+1
Nothing else is different.

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By Buff Johnson
Jun 16, 2014
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This country needs a crack smoking mayor



that is all

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By fortnoy
Jun 16, 2014
Buff Johnson wrote:
This country needs a crack smoking mayor that is all


Marion Barry in DC, and he was re-elected, after.

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By mike c
From nederland
Jun 16, 2014
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The more things change the more they stay the same....Utah has always targeted greenies. Long before pot was legalized,utards have been cracking down.ripping long haired climbers from their cars. i think good pros' comment is biased and speculation (what is with all the man hate?).Did you hang out in boulder to come to your findings? You should go hang out in Pennsylvania and further your research.Have you ever been to Philly? Would you rather have your children smoking pot purchased from a legitimate shop or from a heroin dealer in new jersey? ALL IS THE SAME IF YOU ASK ME.I have seen more lazy, unmotivated climbers this year but i speculate it is all the new gyms. When these gym bred climbers get to the real cliff and ropes aren't set up and bolts aren't laid out every 3 feet, its epic. Maybe they'll go back to the controlled environment where all is safe and cusioned from real life.(for a small fee) Gym climbing is a gateway for complacency,laziness and being soft mentally! Any of those annoyed with colorado law you should check out somewhere up beat, with super outdated laws, that republicans invented to keep social control. i love Colorado! These threads are great. We can focus on the problems or the solutions. Whats the problem?

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By Bob Dobalina
Jun 16, 2014
"All pot smokers are unmotivated" is a farce. Some of the most motivated people I know smoke pot.
Unfortunately, stereotypes still persist. Todays pot is so strong, some of the sativas are more like caffeine!
Back in the 70's, when all they had was essentially ditch weed... Sure, that stuff will bring you down.
What about booze drinking belayers? Now THAT is scary!

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By salisbur1
From Boulder
Jun 18, 2014
Not so sure about that. That's how I learned to climb. Drunk. Didn't everybody?

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Jun 18, 2014
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Bob Dobalina wrote:
"All pot smokers are unmotivated" is a farce.

That's true - but it's the 90% that are unmotivated making the 10% that are look bad...\\

Bob Dobalina wrote:
What about booze drinking belayers? Now THAT is scary!

Or pretty much the same - someone whose mind is not primarily on safety.

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By Chick on Crack
From Golden, CO
Jun 19, 2014
They are trying to open a pot shop at the top of X-It on Table. There are county ordinances about repelling while high. Silly red tape.

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By Merlin
From Grand Junction
Jun 19, 2014
I hear a lot about Utah police profiling us here in CO but I've never seen it. I probably spend 10-20 days a year in Utah, not a ton mind you but still. I've never been bothered by a cop there

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Jun 19, 2014
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"I hear a lot about Utah police profiling us here in CO but I've never seen it".

Months back when I moved from CO back to CA, when I came across the Utah border, a few miles in there was a K9 Unit ticketing speeders...

A dog was needed?

Hmmm...

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By Ryan Watts
From Bishop, CA
Jun 19, 2014
Flatirons
I was climbing in Red Rock with a buddy of mine from CO and the rangers searched his car for being parked in a no parking zone...

There was nothing in it and they ended up not giving him a ticket so we didn't press it but CO plates + illegally parked strikes me as not necessarily being probable cause to search a vehicle.

Although on the other hand I suppose the chances that two climbers from Colorado on vacation in Vegas DON'T have anything in their car are pretty slim...

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By Merlin
From Grand Junction
Jun 19, 2014
Locker wrote:
"I hear a lot about Utah police profiling us here in CO but I've never seen it". Months back when I moved from CO back to CA, when I came across the Utah border, a few miles in there was a K9 Unit ticketing speeders... A dog was needed? Hmmm...


Not saying it doesn't happen, they could profile, I'm near 40 and usually traveling with my wife. If I was to be pulled over and searched I'd hire a lawyer and fight it.

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By Ben Walburn
Jun 22, 2014
"This definitely beats lying in a pile of saw...
I was just getting into the "Good Pro" rants and it stopped.
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By JeffL
From Salt Lake City
Jun 22, 2014
Will Butler wrote:
I'm thinking Colorado should invade and annex the Moab area. I'd say that represents 90%+ of my out-of-state driving each year. I'm sure we must have some historic claims to the region. I've been binge-watching The Borgias though on Netflix and it might be affecting my thought patterns.



The best Colorado Crag is located in Utah.

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