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Hide and Seek 

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 95'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
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Submitted By: bio on Oct 17, 2013

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Scott cleaning the route after spurting it up.


Just as you enter the canyon from the trail, on the right side of the canyon, about 10 feet to the right of Sir Charles is a hand crack up mostly good rock. A bit loose in a couple spots but at this grade you won't be pulling down hard. Mostly 5.5/5.6 climbing. Great for the beginning trad leader. Great Pro whenever you need it. Lots of pockets and stances


doubles .3 to #4, #5 optional (BD sizes), 2 long runners nice.

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By Ted Smith
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Jul 14, 2014
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Great Trad lead for the grade with fun movement and nice exposure.
From: Gilbert, Arizona
Oct 19, 2014

I would have a few #4 BD on your rack. The largest cam I had was a #3 and I ended getting run out a good 20'. Great route though. Super fun and lots of good pro placements. Pulled off a few loose pieces so it should be a little cleaner now.
By Daniel Evans
From: N Scottsdale, AZ
Oct 30, 2015
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Bring (2) #4's and a #5, you'll be thankful you did. There's no approach so there is no excuse not to bring the gear. I only had a #4 and placed it down low like an idiot. Wished I had a few more large pieces. The climbing is easy up until the ear of the flake bends left where the bigger pieces come in handy. Once you gain the ledge after it curves left, hop on the arete for easy face climbing to the anchors.

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