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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Aug 28, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after...
I see both sides. Leeroy does have a point, but sadly, eloquence and tact is not in his nature. However, if the OP does not frequent the site, and more specifically this forum often, he would have no way of knowing that this would "dissolve into a shitshow" as Keenan said.

Those of us, like myself, that didn't have a dad growing up, have the tendency to see this as a little pathetic; very self-reliant at that age. At 20 yrs old, I had a squad of a dozen guys under my charge and was responsible for keeping them alive. But I digress.

Would I go back and have a nurturing dad that looked out for me well into my 20s if I could? You bet your ass. So good on you, Mark. However, although Leeroy and Keenan are candid and blunt, it doesn't mean they don't have a point- it's just delivered in an unsavory way. The issue here is that there are two polar opposite ends of the spectrum being represented, and both have years of history and emotion behind them so people get all revved-up.

Everyone take a breath and chill out, and for fuck's sake stop sending vitriolic PMs. People have boring jobs, you know. We would all like to see that shit. It helps the day pass. I like that a few people have offered to help out. Perhaps they can aid this young man in becoming more independent. I wish the best for your son, Mark.

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By Alicia Sokolowski
From Brooklyn, NY
Aug 28, 2012
Hanging out waiting for Die Antwoord to come on st...
Leeroy wrote:
If his son hasn't learned the skills needed to move to another city by the time he's 20, he's never gonna. I stand by my first comment. Sorry you guys don't like it.


I don't think Leeroy is an actual person. I think he's just a flame-inducing caricature of a toothless idiot that huffs glue and and lives in a van down by the river.

I hope the OP weights his comments accordingly.

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By BigJuggsjohnson
Aug 28, 2012
Stones
Here's my take on it: I at 19 yo moved to the USA with my mom. The whole idea about the move was mine and mom being protective of her only child and a ' miracle' in a sence ( I spent a lot of time in a hospital as a kid with my hip) went with me. I owe a lot to my mom but letting go for her was very difficult too. Mark you gave tthe best foundation you could. You cannot protect him from life and people who may hurt him. He is a survivor. He will be just fine! This is a very exciting time in his life . I can tell he has inner strength because he is going to search for himself at a young age! Mark your son will find his own way and you will be proud of him.

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By Jason Todd
From Ranchester, WY
Aug 28, 2012
Moss
Jake Jones nailed it.

Couldn't help but think of this when I first read the OP's post:


Good luck to Trevor in his CO adventure. He'll do fine.

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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Aug 28, 2012
road
First off, WTF Joseph Crotty. are you kidding, probably not. Speedy recovery, need anything let me know. Second, be happy to take your son climbing. PM me. I think thats all you were asking, but no, I'm not going to watch out for him, that's still your job.

Kevin

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By Unassigned User
Aug 28, 2012
Jake Jones wrote:
I see both sides. Leeroy does have a point, but sadly, eloquence and tact is not in his nature. However, if the OP does not frequent the site, and more specifically this forum often, he would have no way of knowing that this would "dissolve into a shitshow" as Keenan said. Those of us, like myself, that didn't have a dad growing up, have the tendency to see this as a little pathetic; very self-reliant at that age. At 20 yrs old, I had a squad of a dozen guys under my charge and was responsible for keeping them alive. But I digress. Would I go back and have a nurturing dad that looked out for me well into my 20s if I could? You bet your ass. So good on you, Mark. However, although Leeroy and Keenan are candid and blunt, it doesn't mean they don't have a point- it's just delivered in an unsavory way. The issue here is that there are two polar opposite ends of the spectrum being represented, and both have years of history and emotion behind them so people get all revved-up. Everyone take a breath and chill out, and for fuck's sake stop sending vitriolic PMs. People have boring jobs, you know. We would all like to see that shit. It helps the day pass. I like that a few people have offered to help out. Perhaps they can aid this young man in becoming more independent. I wish the best for your son, Mark.


Jake you hit it on the head...

I did/do have a dad growing up by I was eager to do my own thing. I left home when I was 19, got my own job, refused financial help, started college on my own, paid my way through two years, then quit and moved again. Since then I have lived in a lot of different places and worked a lot of jobs, met a lot of new people and have rarely gone to my parents for help.

All that being explained, when I read the OP's post I was a little bit put out by the request. Part of moving is being independent, making your own friends and decisions. I feel that anyone that starts their friend/contact base off of a forum is going to have a hard time.

That is my take, but I do see that Mark is a caring Dad and I respect that, I am not a dad so my say means nothing.

Good luck!

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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Aug 28, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after...
J Hazard wrote:
Jake you hit it on the head...


I was aiming for the ball bag.

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By Unassigned User
Aug 28, 2012
Jake Jones wrote:
I was aiming for the ball bag.


Shoot, I would say drop your elevation 2 and a half clicks and try again.

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By Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Aug 28, 2012
Epic free solo with a pack on
Does anyone here actually know the kind of side-effects that cranial radiation has on a four-year old, and how it may affect future development, mental or physical?

If not you have absolutely no reason or right to chime in on what this father's responsibility is and should be to his son...

I'm 22 years old and still happily sucking away on mother's (and a little father's) milk, proverbially of course.

Mark I wish your son luck in moving to Colorado...it's a rad place for sure and I plan on moving as soon as I am done with school!

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By germsauce
Aug 28, 2012
Hippos kill people
I'm a local, living downtown Boulder. Sorry we all had to experience the complete shame of a human being posting here earlier. PM me, i might be in Utah over the weekend but if i end up staying around, happy to include your son in my climbing plans for labor day weekend. Otherwise happy to give advice as someone who moved here at age 18 (and definitely benefited from the unwaivering support of my parental units for years after that).

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By Mark Wyss
From Denver, CO
Aug 28, 2012
Mt. Baker
Ben Botelho wrote:
Does anyone here actually know the kind of side-effects that cranial radiation has on a four-year old, and how it may affect future development, mental or physical? If not you have absolutely no reason or right to chime in on what this father's responsibility is and should be to his son... I'm 22 years old and still happily sucking away on mother's (and a little father's) milk, proverbially of course. Mark I wish your son luck in moving to Colorado...it's a rad place for sure and I plan on moving as soon as I am done with school!

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There is a lot of judgment going on here. Some blatant and some not so much. (there is also a lot of positive feedback which is good). However all of the comparisons made here from one's situation to Mark's are neglecting to take the cancer into consideration. I still have yet to hear from someone who has had cancer (or any other debilitating disease) and moved away on his/her own thousands of miles away from home. That is a MAJOR factor here that is being overlooked.

EDIT: I suppose BiggyJuggs is the closest that it comes so far on the injury front.

Mark didn't post here for criticism. He simply wants what's best for his son and is doing the best he can to set him up for success in Boulder.

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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Aug 28, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV
Hi Mark!

I have no idea why your post triggered so much animosity from some of these dirtbags... I live in Denver and would be more than happy to give any advice I can and possibly take Trevor out climbing sometime.

As for a cheap place to live in Boulder... Good luck! I've seen some very small apartments go for 600/mo. at the cheapest (not including util. or anything). Jobs are also pretty competitive there with all of the students in town now.

If it were me, I'd check in somewhere just east or north of boulder. It's typically A LOT cheaper and much easier to find work. Try Broomfield or Lafeyette or the like. Not quite as social/what he may be looking for, but maybe he can get a short-term lease out there while he sets something up in Boulder??

Let me know how it goes!

-Jon

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Aug 28, 2012
Bocan
I'd use craiglists or roommates.com to get a room in a house. Save you all the trouble of leases and will be cheaper. Plus I think I moved like 3 times in the first year while getting "settled". And IMHO opinion...live in Boulder. Pricier, but at 20 it's where to be, besides Denver. Leave the burbs for another day.

This weekend being labor day will be a bit busy, but PM for any info, help etc.

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By BigJuggsjohnson
Aug 28, 2012
Stones
I had some exposure in Chernobyl too

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By DSnider
Aug 28, 2012
Mark, there are still good people in Boulder. It's a shame you've received all the negative comments and flat out ignorant replys. As a new parent I feel for you. My live changed for the better the day my child was born. Keep the support flowing to your son and props on being a great dad. I'll be doing the same when my kid is older.

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By BigJuggsjohnson
Aug 28, 2012
Stones
Mark do provide the necessary financial and moral support for Trevor. He will meet great people and not so great ones but the mistakes that he may make will be his life . Don't smother him or else he will shut down. Ask him if there's anything u can help with then leave it at that. Let him fly. Im sure u have been a great dad but now its time to let the bird spread his wings. He will share his adventure stories with you and you both will grow closer in time.

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By Joe Huggins
From Grand Junction
Aug 28, 2012
mmmm....tree
Let's keep our facts straight "The King";you're the guy who couldn't accept a fathers' honest concern for his son. Sorry if you don't like our opinions of you.

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By Joe Huggins
From Grand Junction
Aug 28, 2012
mmmm....tree
Leeroy wrote:
epic fail as a parent.

And how would you know what it takes to fail as a parent? Can you back up your alleged expertise with anything verifiable, or logical; maybe empirical. If not, please stop posting-you're embarrassing yourself.
Sorry about the serial posting; this guy is pissing me off.

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