Goth Girls 

Just onsighted this afternoon. I want to thank James for putting up this line. I've been climbing the Slips for years and have looked up this line with anticipation. That being the said the start is bloody scary at least for the onsight. I used right had slopers instead of transitioning to the good holds over the starting roof. The glass-like crack was a puzzle as well. The real fun comes at the end where the big roof pull meets much needed jugs. I will climb it again before I develop a solid opinion for rating, but 10b is probably right, especially given Salem's Lot (10c).

I think the thin face moves in the center of the route felt harder than 10b if you stay directly over the bolt line. If you move out to the right on the arete, I would agree with the 10b rating. It was also a little heady moving out to clip the third bolt. Watch out for the guano-topped jugs at the top. Either way, fun new line. Thanks!

What is FA-ers beta for the start? I climbed it twice today but I wasn't sure what the FA-er had envisioned. If you truly went bolt to bolt on the start, it would actually be well into the 5.11s if not a twevle. I started my lead slightly to the left, and then directy over bolt one. My next climb I climbed the left arete.

Same up top. I climbed straight over the roof on left (most easterly route possible) but that left me several feet to the left of the chains. My friends climbed to the right of the black water mark. It was relatively easy. I also tried right in the middle (slightly to the left of the water mark and just right of the bolt. It was fun but required a pretty dynamic reach to get up and over the roof- fun though! Anyway, I pretty confused by the first and last bolts. Otherwise, I climbed bolt to bolt. The middles slab section was definately fun with then, even somewhat smooth feet. Don't sell yourself short, stay off the arete to the right and and it's a lot more fun. If you do bolt to bolt, I found the crux to be the middle section slab (without the arete) and would definately say 5.10b (even a C if you really contrive it and stay in the middle). Lol, just read Thomas' comments on the middle section. Bolt to bolt minus the arete, I agree, maybe 5.11+. With the arete, I would say 5.9+. The arete makes it easier than the witch or salem in my opinion.

Loved figuring out the cruxy face portion of the route. Avoiding the bat guano at the top was a distraction from a nice finish. It's good to see more 10s at the slips

I on-sighted this right after the other 10.b (Nosferatu) and this was more difficult. This has some different styles which is kind of cool, but the face climbing is very thin and interesting. I went for the bolt-line instead of using the arete or the crack. There can be a large variation but I think if you stay along the bolt-line it is much harder than 10.b. Not a bad climb, though. It makes you think

I would easily put it into the 5.11 range if you go bolt to bolt but 10 b felt correct if you use the arete on the right of bolt 3 and 4. I don't know about you guys but I love any opportunity for a juggy roof heel hook for the last move. Awesome route.

The middle slab is definitely the crux. I tried a couple different moves but after my fingers started bleeding from the crack I went right to the arete to get past it. I will try it again next time. I say that staying over the bolts is probably closer to 10d. The top looks much harder that it was. Lots of great jugs to grab. There was still plenty of bat poo though.

I'm wondering what most people do for the start. I used the jugs on the right side but it also looked like you could go left as well. Anyone know the intended route?

I climbed around the right side of the climb and kinda approached form behind to clip the bottom bolt, downclimbed, then went for it. If the first bolt is spooking you, and you have no stick clip, you might like that approach. If the edeges of the roof look wet from the recent storm, they arent. It's guano.