By Joe Huggins Jul 22, 2008
| Yeah, Anal Raper, his mom and dad must not have understood the meaning of their last name when they named him Anal. But I guess the double digit IQ that we see demonstrated here is probably genetic... |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 22, 2008
| Joe Huggins wrote: Yeah, Anal Raper, his mom and dad must not have understood the meaning of their last name when they named him Anal. But I guess the double digit IQ that we see demonstrated here is probably genetic...
I knew that homozygosity was an issue in the Smoky Mountains and other areas of the Southeast, although not in Wyoming. I had heard stories of odd gene mixing taking place up in that neck of the woods, although I understood that it involved certain ranch animals. |  |
By Dreadlock From Taylorsville, UT. Jul 22, 2008
| Ken Cangi wrote: I knew that homozygosity was an issue in the Smoky Mountains and other areas of the Southeast, although not in Wyoming. I had heard stories of odd gene mixing taking place up in that neck of the woods, although I understood that it involved certain ranch animals.
Proof that there really are sheeple. |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 22, 2008
| Dreadlock wrote: Proof that there really are sheeple.
I thought that was apparent, from raper's posts. |  |
By WeBeJammon From Laramie, WY Jul 22, 2008
| wow, i finally found my next girlfriend |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 22, 2008
| WeBeJammon wrote: wow, i finally found my next girlfriend
You get an "A" for effort, but you're just not that funny. |  |
By Ronin From Franklin, WV Jul 22, 2008
| The first dog with opposable thumbs (for belaying, climbing and cleaning gear, as well as doing trailwork, cooking, and opening beer bottles), who can carry one end of a Stoakes litter and has any comprehension of the shouted word "Rock!", will be a "good crag dog". Until the advent of this genetic mutant, the term is an oxymoron.
The debate is useless... "crag dog" owners refuse to yield to logic, no matter how sympathetic, while "crag dog" opponents (many of whom own or, like myself, have owned and deeply treasured several canine companions) refuse to yield to fuzzy, feel-good emotionalism, no matter how great the bandwagon appeal or deftly-spun the rationalizations. It is a lose-lose-lose situation, and it is the crags, as well as the entire climbing community, that pay the price, in the end.
If you are determined to bring your pet, leash it from car to car, and keep it out of the trail while it is tied up and you are climbing. Or accept that it may just get a trekking pole driven through its skull by someone who feels no need to tolerate an animal of no practical use in the climbing world that suddenly lunges to its feet as they pass by.
(WAIT! BEFORE you rant... I would never react by impaling your pooch... I love dogs, even while opposing them at the crag, and if threatened by one am more the "kick and stomp while offering to extend that courtesy to the owner" type, myself. This allows owner and pet to survive with some perspective, and perhaps instills in the dog an overwhelming fear of strange climbers that will keep them from being brought back to the crag.)
NOW you can rant... for all the good it will do.
p.s. inbreeding and strange offspring were first perfected by the Egyptians, then the Europeans, who first settled in N. Am in- you guessed it- the NORTH (you know, the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock, etc?). Stop watching reruns of Deliverance and go look out in your own back yards, you'uns.
[/ronin] |  |
By kirra Jul 22, 2008
| what did he say..?? |  |
By Play Calmer From Laramie, Wyoming Jul 22, 2008
| what did he even say. he was talking but no words were coming out |  |
By Russell Holcomb From Boulder, Colorado Jul 22, 2008
| Hey Ronin, If you need trekking poles to get to the crag, you won't even beat down the women around here. I love how some people on this site are all about how they're going to beat down this, and shoot that. You ain't gonna beat shit man, except your own pud.
"Ronin" Cool handle. Are you a wandering samurai with no lord or master? You running that cute little samurai pony tail? Where do you wander, Ronin? The hollers of West Virginia? You beat down a lot of dogs on your journeys? That's proud. |  |
By Hank Caylor From Eldorado Springs, CO Jul 22, 2008
| Ronin wrote: and if threatened by one am more the "kick and stomp while offering to extend that courtesy to the owner" type, myself. This allows owner and pet to survive with some perspective [/ronin]
Me, my wife and our two dogs will be at the the NRG again this year as staff BASE jumping at Bridge Day. Please try to lay a finger on my hounds ya' little donut puncher. We will be sending EVERYTHING you fags think is hard 1st or 2nd try. Go fuck your sister! |  |
By cstorms From Denver, CO Jul 22, 2008
| trek pole through a dogs head? you sir are a moron. Maybe you should take the trek pole out of your ass. |  |
By Play Calmer From Laramie, Wyoming Jul 22, 2008
| i am more the baseball bat type and i will extend that courtesy to you if you ever find yourself in the unfortunate position(i.e. touching my dog.) and im sure my Lab pit bull mix would be glad to offer a hand. |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 23, 2008
| Hank Caylor wrote: Me, my wife and our two dogs will be at the the NRG again this year as staff BASE jumping at Bridge Day. Please try to lay a finger on my hounds ya' little donut puncher. We will be sending EVERYTHING you fags think is hard 1st or 2nd try. Go fuck your sister!
I just pissed myself. |  |
By douche' From CO Jul 23, 2008
| Hank Caylor wrote: Me, my wife and our two dogs will be at the the NRG again this year as staff BASE jumping at Bridge Day. Please try to lay a finger on my hounds ya' little donut puncher. We will be sending EVERYTHING you fags think is hard 1st or 2nd try. Go fuck your sister!
Hank reckons himself to be a tough guy. Staff, WOW man, cool. All praise the Hank! |  |
By Russell Holcomb From Boulder, Colorado Jul 23, 2008
| douche' wrote: Hank reckons himself to be a tough guy. Staff, WOW man, cool. All praise the Hank!
Hank doesn't have to be a tough guy...he's loved unconditionally. That's power. You mess with Hank and his family and you mess with a lot of people. |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 23, 2008
| Ronin wrote: The first dog with opposable thumbs (for belaying, climbing and cleaning gear, as well as doing trailwork, cooking, and opening beer bottles), who can carry one end of a Stoakes litter and has any comprehension of the shouted word "Rock!", will be a "good crag dog". Until the advent of this genetic mutant, the term is an oxymoron. The debate is useless... "crag dog" owners refuse to yield to logic, no matter how sympathetic, while "crag dog" opponents (many of whom own or, like myself, have owned and deeply treasured several canine companions) refuse to yield to fuzzy, feel-good emotionalism, no matter how great the bandwagon appeal or deftly-spun the rationalizations. It is a lose-lose-lose situation, and it is the crags, as well as the entire climbing community, that pay the price, in the end. If you are determined to bring your pet, leash it from car to car, and keep it out of the trail while it is tied up and you are climbing. Or accept that it may just get a trekking pole driven through its skull by someone who feels no need to tolerate an animal of no practical use in the climbing world that suddenly lunges to its feet as they pass by. (WAIT! BEFORE you rant... I would never react by impaling your pooch... I love dogs, even while opposing them at the crag, and if threatened by one am more the "kick and stomp while offering to extend that courtesy to the owner" type, myself. This allows owner and pet to survive with some perspective, and perhaps instills in the dog an overwhelming fear of strange climbers that will keep them from being brought back to the crag.) NOW you can rant... for all the good it will do. p.s. inbreeding and strange offspring were first perfected by the Egyptians, then the Europeans, who first settled in N. Am in- you guessed it- the NORTH (you know, the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock, etc?). Stop watching reruns of Deliverance and go look out in your own back yards, you'uns. [/ronin] |  |
By douche' From CO Jul 23, 2008
| Internet wankfest, guys, go get laid OK? Its not as easy as a 5.10 for all you tough guys but it sure beats wanking in front of the world. |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 23, 2008
| Ronin wrote: p.s. inbreeding and strange offspring were first perfected by the Egyptians, then the Europeans, who first settled in N. Am in- you guessed it- the NORTH (you know, the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock, etc?).
Then why this ubiquitous public health message on four different news stations in your Southern corner of the map?
Here
here
here
and here
Maybe it's those recessive genes that compel folks like you to want to stab people's pets with trekking poles. |  |
By douche' From CO Jul 23, 2008
| Ken Cangi wrote: Then why this ubiquitous public health message on four different news stations in your Southern corner of the map? Here here here and here Maybe it's those recessive genes that compel folks like you to want to stab people's pets with trekking poles.
Cangi knows, he is or was a bad ass spurt climber. Staff too? |  |
By Russell Holcomb From Boulder, Colorado Jul 23, 2008
| douche' wrote: Cangi knows, he is or was a bad ass spurt climber. Staff too?
Home boy, your name is douche, correct?
Did your parents give you that or did you choose it for yourself? |  |
By patrick wild Jul 23, 2008
| Some of you know me and Crowley and might find this as funny ~well sort of~ as me.
I was sitting at my local coffee shop a few weeks ago, with Crowley leashed, enjoying a caffeinated beverage. A pretty girl walks up to me with a precious little French Bulldog on leash and asked if my dog is friendly. I had noticed that the bulldog was still intact, and since my dog likes to eat other dogs with their balls, I respond, "No, he's not nice to other dogs." She said, "Oh, ok." Then bent over and unleashed her 15-20lb. French Bulldog. I was dumbstruck, I wanted to shout "wait no don't do that" but the words didn't come out. The bulldog immediately charged my 95lb, old, miserably hot, grumpy poodle chewer. Crowley grabbed that thing by the neck and shook for about fifteen seconds before I could get him to release.
So, of course, me and my dog are the "bad guys" and several other patrons are now asking us to leave. I hung around just long enough to see that her dog wasn't ripped open or severely injured. C'est la vie.
So, my point is... um....
What up Rusty, Hanky and the rest of the Front Range dog lovers! |  |
By Russell Holcomb From Boulder, Colorado Jul 23, 2008
| Some of you know me and Crowley and might find this as funny ~well sort of~ as me. I was sitting at my local coffee shop a few weeks ago, with Crowley leashed, enjoying a caffeinated beverage. A pretty girl walks up to me with a precious little French Bulldog on leash and asked if my dog is friendly.
You know my philosophy: 'all's well that ends well...in bed'. I don't mean Crowley and the poodle. Or you and Hank, or me and Hank, or you and me and Hank and anyone else. I was referring to you and the pretty girl. Just so we're clear. |  |
By patrick wild Jul 23, 2008
| Oh, it could have ended better... in bed!
You know, hangin at the coffee shop, see a pretty girl, make eye contact, exchange smiles, she's walking my way, things are looking good...
CRAP her dog has testicles I'm not getting laid, again! |  |
By Zed From Gotham City Jul 23, 2008
| patrick wild wrote: Some of you know me and Crowley and might find this as funny ~well sort of~ as me. I was sitting at my local coffee shop a few weeks ago, with Crowley leashed, enjoying a caffeinated beverage. A pretty girl walks up to me with a precious little French Bulldog on leash and asked if my dog is friendly. I had noticed that the bulldog was still intact, and since my dog likes to eat other dogs with their balls, I respond, "No, he's not nice to other dogs." She said, "Oh, ok." Then bent over and unleashed her 15-20lb. French Bulldog. I was dumbstruck, I wanted to shout "wait no don't do that" but the words didn't come out. The bulldog immediately charged my 95lb, old, miserably hot, grumpy poodle chewer. Crowley grabbed that thing by the neck and shook for about fifteen seconds before I could get him to release. So, of course, me and my dog are the "bad guys" and several other patrons are now asking us to leave. I hung around just long enough to see that her dog wasn't ripped open or severely injured. C'est la vie. So, my point is... um.... What up Rusty, Hanky and the rest of the Front Range dog lovers!
Although Ronin's troll post is yet another glaring example of taking things over the top, Patrick's point is not lost on me. I've had so many run-ins with irresponsible dog owners, over the years, that I've lost count. Most of us have been there.
And, unfortunately for dogs that have had encounters like Crowley's, it is not the owner who suffers the biggest consequences. Patrick, you were probably asked to leave because it was your dog that did the damage. I can understand why the coffee shop owner or manager would want to remove what he or she considered a dangerous liability at their establishment. Regardless of who was at fault, scenes like that are bad for business. Moreover, had a patron been bitten in the melee, there would have been a major lawsuit and possible charges brought against you.
Climbers do need to do a better job of keeping their dogs under control. It is not okay that your dogs run all over people's gear and ropes while you are two pitches above. Not only is it inconsiderate to the other climbers, it can be a dangerous distraction for someone who is trying to keep your dog off of their gear while they are also trying to safely belay their partners.
I've met some great dogs at the crags, and I've encountered some real nuisances. However, I don't blame the dogs. I blame the irresponsible owners. |  |
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