Fred Nicole Project (Stand-start) 

My understanding is that the stand-start is V5. The start in the hole makes things much, much more interesting. If you start on the beginning holds of Fritz Bulge, then traverse in to the FNP, you get a punishing amount of core tension and harumph. Hasn't been done yet, to my knowledge.

I spent some time this weekend working the problem from the sit, and while I had to work pretty hard, the moves are all there. Skin was shredded by the time I made sense of the moves, so I left without a send. Next time. Good problem, worth some traffic for those who like slopey topouts.

Sounds good to me. I haven't finished this yet and I can't remember if I meant the stand or sit when I added the route. I'll adjust the rating since I don't really have an opinion.