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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

dog owners tips
dog owners tips


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jun 13, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

FrankPS wrote:
Do these techniques work with girlfriends?


Yes, but only the Eastern European ones.


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jun 13, 2012

Usually a back hand works pretty well.


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By Alex Washburne
Jun 13, 2012
I eat crack for breakfast.

I liked that (typo?) in the beginning: there are crag dogs and there are drag dogs. I'm a firm believer that proper training can go a long ways to change a dog's temperament, but I'm also not a trained dog trainer.

I have a husky too, and he's very chill at crags. I've had a lot of people compliment him and his very quiet, reserved personality at the crags. A big part of it is that I was lucky to have picked out a very loving dog to begin with - as I walked out of the pound on day 1 with Jack, he submissively (ears down, head & tail low) approached a toddler and licked her gently on the chin.

That said, I also spent a long time taking Jack to social situations before taking him to a crag. Continually introduce your dog to new people and new situations, and be ready to risk being the asshole who's lecturing their dog in company - it sucks at first, but it's better to be that asshole for a year than to be the pathetic mediator who pets their snarling, rabid dog while saying to the stranger "It's okay, Snookie's friendly".

Also, I'm not sure if it's been said yet, but there's one thing that's definitely worth consideration: even if the dog behaves well, the risk of falling objects (rocks, biners, people) that can permanently damage or kill the dog should give us pause. The risk can be mitigated slightly by choosing well-protected spots to leash up the pup, but it's still a risk that should we should know we're taking when we bring our best friends to the crag.

Good luck with the training!


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

mitchy wrote:
Usually a back hand works pretty well.

Very shovenistic comment. It's a shame in this day and age t his is the way of thinking in some cases of a pathetic attempt at machismo.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Jake Jones wrote:
Yes, but only the Eastern European ones.

Not only shovenist but also a prejudiced person with a very closed mind who probably does not even know a single Eastern European woman personally. This is not a joke.


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jun 13, 2012

Not an attempt to be macho, just simply stating a fact.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Btw u can no longer be deported as long as u can prove abuse physical or emotional. This story makes me sick to my stomach. So u think I don't know what has been happening to some women, not only from Eastern Europe but also from Asia in this country?! U joking or being sarcastic about this is very rude and disrespectful. Women's rights in this country have gone way far especially when it comes to domestic abuse. Watch movie Eastern Promises. To think that you are a climber and saying it on a climbing site makes me even sicker!


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jun 13, 2012

Just go to the Pharmacy and grab a bottle of Maalox, that should help with your malady.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jun 13, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

Elena Sera Jose wrote:
Btw u can no longer be deported as long as u can prove abuse physical or emotional. This story makes me sick to my stomach. So u think I don't know what has been happening to some women, not only from Eastern Europe but also from Asia in this country?! U joking or being sarcastic about this is very rude and disrespectful. Women's rights in this country have gone way far especially when it comes to domestic abuse. Watch movie Eastern Promises. To think that you are a climber and saying it on a climbing site makes me even sicker!


Your brain is broken.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

mitchy wrote:
Just go to the Pharmacy and grab a bottle of Maalox, that should help with your malady.

Both u and your friend are ...let me guess.....stuck at their miserable places of work? ....wishing they could come out and play more? Go focus on politics and don't forget to flush it all down with a stiff drink before u come home and kiss your ladies' asses.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Jake Jones wrote:
Your brain is broken.

So maybe your heart is broken by some golddiger chick...pick it up and climb with your buddies cowboy, bash chicks feel better, repeat.!


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jun 13, 2012

My place of work is definately NOT miserable, get paid very well for what i do. I get out plenty, drink plenty and don't really kiss any ass, and i'm not really into politics.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

mitchy wrote:
My place of work is definately NOT miserable, get paid very well for what i do. I get out plenty, drink plenty and don't really kiss any ass, and i'm not really into politics.

What do you do?....I don't care what u say ..u do kiss some ass
I can tell.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Typical response....'soulless Russian golddigers!' Last time I heard the term was from a woman at work whose boyfriend was 'stolen' by one of those. Boring! Well let me enlighten you cowboy: everyone does it in every country! Its called being an opportunist. Women stay in abusive marriages here because the husband pays the bills hey some men do it! Its money, status, fame whatever! Boooooring!


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Ironically just sitting in a nail salon talking to a girl from Cambodia....surprise! Same story....he does not want her to get her GED so she can go to school. Im totally corruptimg her mind telling her she should go to school and be a nurse....


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Elena Sera Jose wrote:
Ironically just sitting in a nail salon talking to a girl from Cambodia....surprise! Same story....he does not want her to get her GED so she can go to school. Im totally corruptimg her mind telling her she should go to school and be a nurse....

PS he brought her to the US 2 years ago .....hmmmm. I tell her: girl get your education so u r self sufficient and independent. She may even take my advice!


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jun 13, 2012

What, are a social worker now.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

Im about to give her a list of shelters ....but then im shooting myself in the foot...who is gonna do my pedicure???? Much needed :) If I call her a ' soulless Cambodian golddiger' she will giggle im sure


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jun 13, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

Elena Sera Jose wrote:
Typical response....'soulless Russian golddigers!' Last time I heard the term was from a woman at work whose boyfriend was 'stolen' by one of those. Boring! Well let me enlighten you cowboy: everyone does it in every country! Its called being an opportunist. Women stay in abusive marriages here because the husband pays the bills hey some men do it!


WTF are you even saying here? What in God's name is your point? May I summarize? First, I was referring, if you read again (and retain this time), to both the men and women as soulless. Then you veer off into some anecdote about some woman you work with. The poignant part of that story as it relates to the message you're trying to convey is... what? If it's boring, why are you responding? Why get so worked up? I know what an opportunist is you troglodyte. What I can't figure out is whether you're supporting that lifestyle, or whether you're against it. Because if you support it, then you're no better. If you're against it, then you basically agree with me. Either way, you make zero sense.

Elena Sera Jose wrote:
Its money, status, fame whatever! Boooooring!




And WTF does this mean? Is there a point to this sentence? Are you condoning it, and then denying it by saying "boring"? You type like an epileptic mutant with no arms playing Operation and your thought process follows no logical or coherent path at all. Are you an alien?

Is everyone from here:

Ukraine's Old Glory
Ukraine's Old Glory


As smart as you are?


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

U are too dense to understand. Obviously.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

And yes im not from around here ..alien if u wanna call it. Btw im not from Ukraine. Corrupted by the US of A with retail addiction yet on the right path to recovery. I call myself 'free spirit' .....yet I do have many names. Now back to bashing that girls husband...


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jun 13, 2012

Jake, i was about to reply to the obvious. She has no idea what she is talking about. But, she beat me to it with that god awful post directly under yours.


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By Crag Dweller
From New York, NY
Jun 13, 2012
My navigator keeps me from getting lost

MP really needs the ignore user functionality. Then, a user could post all the senseless, unintelligent thoughts she has at 2 minute intervals and no one else would see any of them.


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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
Jun 13, 2012
bacon

OK I have an idea for both if you: go on a trip to Eastern Europe I suggest Estonia ( tall skinny Scandinavian blond bombshells husky enough to carry serious backpacks, cool accents kinda dry sence of humor but some dig it) and you both should get yourselves a bride each! How bout that?!


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