i luv it when they bring doggays ... a quick protein fix after climbing does wonders ....

so there were 3 dogs at the crag all had different owners, everyone especially girls adored a fluffy pup and the dogs seem to have had a good time playing with each other. one dog was walking all over the rope i was belaying with ( not my rope) but the owner of the rope did not say anything (he does not say much in general) i did not say anything because i was kinda tired and frustrated at a 5.6 i could not lead earlier. The owner of the dog said something like: "oh u should not walk on those peoples rope", but it went no farther. If it was my rope or I was not so tired i would have said something about the dog walking on the rope. So the point im trying to make here is: if you are reading this thread please dont let your dog walk on other peoples rope, because if they are not really tired or trying to work a route and focus they may say something...unpleasant even.
p.s. now i feel guilty for not saying something about that guys rope being walked on.

Usually a back hand works pretty well.

I liked that (typo?) in the beginning: there are crag dogs and there are drag dogs. I'm a firm believer that proper training can go a long ways to change a dog's temperament, but I'm also not a trained dog trainer.

I have a husky too, and he's very chill at crags. I've had a lot of people compliment him and his very quiet, reserved personality at the crags. A big part of it is that I was lucky to have picked out a very loving dog to begin with - as I walked out of the pound on day 1 with Jack, he submissively (ears down, head & tail low) approached a toddler and licked her gently on the chin.

That said, I also spent a long time taking Jack to social situations before taking him to a crag. Continually introduce your dog to new people and new situations, and be ready to risk being the asshole who's lecturing their dog in company - it sucks at first, but it's better to be that asshole for a year than to be the pathetic mediator who pets their snarling, rabid dog while saying to the stranger "It's okay, Snookie's friendly".

Also, I'm not sure if it's been said yet, but there's one thing that's definitely worth consideration: even if the dog behaves well, the risk of falling objects (rocks, biners, people) that can permanently damage or kill the dog should give us pause. The risk can be mitigated slightly by choosing well-protected spots to leash up the pup, but it's still a risk that should we should know we're taking when we bring our best friends to the crag.

Good luck with the training!

Not an attempt to be macho, just simply stating a fact.

Btw u can no longer be deported as long as u can prove abuse physical or emotional. This story makes me sick to my stomach. So u think I don't know what has been happening to some women, not only from Eastern Europe but also from Asia in this country?! U joking or being sarcastic about this is very rude and disrespectful. Women's rights in this country have gone way far especially when it comes to domestic abuse. Watch movie Eastern Promises. To think that you are a climber and saying it on a climbing site makes me even sicker!

Just go to the Pharmacy and grab a bottle of Maalox, that should help with your malady.

My place of work is definately NOT miserable, get paid very well for what i do. I get out plenty, drink plenty and don't really kiss any ass, and i'm not really into politics.

LOL. Ok halfwit, I was trying to avoid this, but here goes. First, let me apologize in advance. I'm detracting from the topic, and I'm going to be a jerk. You are hands down the dumbest person here. Second place goes to Fishy.

I'm not a chauvinist. My comment was meant as a joke. Whether or not you choose to take it that way is up to you. Since you can't derive meaning and context on your own, I'll break it down Barney style for you.

The women in the scenarios I stated are just as much at fault as the men that abuse them. They are both manipulative, soulless, shallow scum. They get themselves stuck in the situation. I don't condone the activities of either. Quite the opposite.

My post was merely a rebuttal to you saying that I don't know any Eastern Europeans. How on Earth you came to the conclusion that I was somehow supporting the shitbags with my statement is beyond me. It is yet another testament to your galactic level of obtuse ignorance.

I have seen Eastern Promises. Viggo is one of my faves. You know what's more pathetic than a man that feels inferior and grasps at some sense of control and authority by beating on women? The woman that stays in that situation because she needs the man's money.

Btw, have you ever tried to prove emotional abuse in a court, or known anyone that has been successful in doing so? Probably not. Physical abuse is also very hard to prove, but easy compared to emotional abuse. In case you can't discern what I mean exactly, I'll spoonfeed it to you. 99% of the time, abuse of a migrant worker by someone whom she is exploiting and hopped into bed with is taken about as seriously by my local courts as your posts are taken by the members of this site. Just so there's no mistake, I don't condone, or agree with it, but at the same time, I have no sympathy for user whores either.

The fact that I'm a climber and saying it on a climbing site has nothing to do with anything. That is about par for the course with regard to your posts that make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I am now much dumber for responding to you and engaging in this utterly futile dialogue. I think I may even be missing a chromosome now. Feel free to babble on into oblivion about something no one will know the meaning of except you.

Typical response....'soulless Russian golddigers!' Last time I heard the term was from a woman at work whose boyfriend was 'stolen' by one of those. Boring! Well let me enlighten you cowboy: everyone does it in every country! Its called being an opportunist. Women stay in abusive marriages here because the husband pays the bills hey some men do it! Its money, status, fame whatever! Boooooring!

Ironically just sitting in a nail salon talking to a girl from Cambodia....surprise! Same story....he does not want her to get her GED so she can go to school. Im totally corruptimg her mind telling her she should go to school and be a nurse....

What, are a social worker now.

Im about to give her a list of shelters ....but then im shooting myself in the foot...who is gonna do my pedicure???? Much needed :) If I call her a ' soulless Cambodian golddiger' she will giggle im sure