How about shaving a beaver?????? Sorry........
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I have been chased, bitten and barked at by somebody elses dog friend. Each time the owner of the dog said the dog would be OK. I am apprehensive about any dog, any where. Keep em home or most definitely keep em tied up! My opinion!

Dogs at climbing areas is a subject of particular interest to me, having been bitten twice and attacked another time by climbers' dogs. Both bites left a permanent mark, and both dogs were in the presence of the owner, one on a leash held by the owner. In that case, the dog had growled with bared teeth, and then walked up, while I was holding a climber about twenty feet up on belay with a tube device, and bit my leg. In no case did the owner do anything of punishment or other discipline to the dog. One owner did apologize, but only to ensure no consequences for himself; and later ordered me to avoid him and his dog, which he said he would bring again, as he has.

The bite that should have had stitches would by law not have been treated without also starting rabies shots or presentation of papers by the owner. The only legal recourse would be to come back on a weekday, find a magistrate, and request a hearing for a civil suit for monetary compensation based on certifications, but only with full identification of the owner, which I could not demand of the owner. Even in a state park, with rangers fully authorized for law enforcement, they would have to witness the attack to be able to do anything.

There certainly are nice dogs encountered at climbing areas, but there is no way to know, even with assurances from the owner, until it might be too late. The dog that bit my hand was wagging its tail. The owner that did apologize assured me that he had never seen his dog do any such thing. The dog that attacked had been behind a tree so I could not see it before it lunged. Then, there are the dogs that bark at you or any dog, which those dogs do because there never was any training or restraint of the precious dog, especially by women who only coo and sing to the dog to change its mood, rewarding it.

Why are dogs ever brought to a climbing area? The trip may be exciting and some needed exercise. But once there, there is only boredom and the torment of strange sights, smells, sounds, dogs, activities, and people. Some older dogs can just lie there -- but why there? Dogs have only two necessary interests: hunting for food, and hunting for sex, which can't be done legally or effectively at a climbing area. They piss everywhere they go, and rake up the ground if they shit. They dig holes that remain as further erosion. Dogs will violently defend against peple who are not going to rape or steal, but who will have to tolerate the attack. No part of a climbing area becomes your territory, with or without your hammock and your "music" and your dog.

Why do people even have dogs? We are told that until we do have a dog, we do not have a complete life or home. That if we are good people, we will save a dog from an animal shelter. We ignore the confinement and boredom that dogs endure, their unnatural food, and lack of natural social involvement, redirected to ourselves which we accept as the affection we need. We choose a dog as a fashion statement, for which they are manufactured like shoes in endless variations extending to deformity. We choose and use a dog as an avatar to live through vicariously. We pretend that a domesticated predator -- every one of which could rip your face off before you could scream -- is our child that everyone must accept and adore. We find human emotions in a dog's face and postures to support the fantasy. And especially in America, where selfishness is epidemic, people own dogs only somewhat behind the rates for televisions.

Taking your dog to a climbing area is another indulgence of your self, and a demand on others that no one deserves on either side. Your dog will be a distraction from the concentration that is a part of climbing. If there is an accident requiring evacuation, what happens with your dog? A dog is no part of climbing, and should not be a part of any climbing area, ever. Love your more or less domesticated, but not likely well trained, predator all you want. And when you go climbing, leave the damned thing at home.

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I find people have way more impact on the crags than dogs.

Dogs, please leave your human at home.

Get a shock collar for your dog...they will act perfectly at the crag.

shock collar or stick, when your dog starts pissin' you off just shock his ass or hit'em with a stick, sooner or later he'll get the picture.

Dogs aren't the problem. Lousy dog owners are.
Instead of shocking or hitting the dog as an owner you should take the time to train your animal properly. You would not let your kids get away with bad crag behavior, don't let your dog. A dog is only as good as it is trained to be. Like most humans. I believe a tazer to the leg of any lousy dog owner will bring them around. Probably work on your girlfriend as well Frank.

Some dogs add class to the crag.

classy gent Submitted By: danulu on Jun 12, 2012

Dog love, These are mine.

I love dogs, Mine are nice dogs, but taking them to the crags would make them and everyone around miserable.

Fer crikey sake leave them home.